Bottas in doubt

Bottas in doubt

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woof

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8,456 posts

279 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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Valtteri Bottas's participation in the Formula 1 season-opening Australian Grand Prix will only be decided on after medical checks on Sunday morning, his Williams team has said.

The Finn went to hospital having suffered back pain during qualifying, putting him in doubt for Sunday's race.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118055

I dont' think Alex Lynn is in Australia to step in. Cannot believe they would run Susie Wolff !?


DanielSan

18,868 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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They wouldn't, she didn't qualify so they'd just run one car. I noticed after qualifying today as they were walking in to be weighed he had has hand on the bottom of his back as he was talking to his engineer.

team underdog

938 posts

231 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Pat Symmonds told Sky F1 that Susie Wolf was a test and not reserve driver, so I'd say that rules her out the equation and also begs the question of why she's there in the first place other than a marketing tool?!

Surely you'd have a test and reserve driver who's involved in the developement of the car and can jump in and be on the pace right away.

Williams may well regret not have a reserve plan in place.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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team underdog said:
Pat Symmonds told Sky F1 that Susie Wolf was a test and not reserve driver, so I'd say that rules her out the equation and also begs the question of why she's there in the first place other than a marketing tool?!

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Toto Wolff will be keen to find out too

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/20/uk-motor-...

Some Gump

12,745 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Lol, if susie wolff DID get a drive in that car, it'd put a severe dent in the chances of seeing a proper female f1 driver in the next decade.

Remember the race of champions? Not good...

btcc123

1,243 posts

149 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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I heard Pat Symmonds comments of Sky that if Bottas was not fit for the next race then Susie Wolff would not drive.

Why not.Although they do not have an official reserve driver she is the development driver,simulator driver,done a couple of official F1 tests and driven in free practice 1 twice last year and is due to do the same this year.

Yes they may be able to get a better driver but he will not know the car so if I ran the team I would give her a chance as I think she would do a good job,she know the car,the first woman to race in F1 for years,excellent publicity for Williams and Formula 1 so why not give her a chance.

Perhaps Toto Wolff could give Williams a reason to run her in the car.Toto sold some of his shares in Williams as it was part of his contract with Mercedes and think he has more shares to sell in the future.

This is probably academic as I think Bottas will be ok for Malaysia.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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btcc123 said:
I heard Pat Symmonds comments of Sky that if Bottas was not fit for the next race then Susie Wolff would not drive.

Why not
Because she is crap. Every time she has run the car she has been seconds off the pace.

btcc123

1,243 posts

149 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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VolvoT5 said:
btcc123 said:
I heard Pat Symmonds comments of Sky that if Bottas was not fit for the next race then Susie Wolff would not drive.

Why not
Because she is crap. Every time she has run the car she has been seconds off the pace.
Free practice 1 Germany:

The experiment with Susie Wolff is over for now. In her second and final outing this year, she put in a respectable performance, finishing just two-tenths behind her team-mate.
While it is impossible to gauge how impressive her drive was, she exceeded the expectations of her Williams team, who set the Scot the target of being 0.5s behind Felipe Massa.

Official F1 Test Silverstone:

Experienced Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, who was on track at the same time as Wolff, praised her impressive full track debut.

"She was pretty quick," said the Brazilian. "I was very happy for her when I saw her lap times.

"It would be good for a team to push Susie in driving at the races and it would be very interesting for everybody to have her in Formula 1."


Edited by btcc123 on Sunday 15th March 21:35

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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That will be the FP1 where Massa himself was about 1.5 seconds off the pace.

red_duke

800 posts

183 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Perhaps Williams will give their other development driver Alex Lynn a shot if Bottas is unfit in Malaysia?

At least he won GP3.

Some Gump

12,745 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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BTCC123, I realise it's your job as forum troll to poke the bear - but what exactly did you expect Massa to say? "Yeah, the boss' bit on the side got the keys, she was st"?

I used to know Susie when I was a kid. She was st. Several other girls on the girls were way, way better. She then went on to a career being st in single seat, and woeful in DTM. Finally, she married a team owner and got an F1 drive. Nothing - not 1 race, ever would make anyone want to pay her to drive their car on the basis of performance.

I'm not for a second saying Susie is anythng but a lovely girl. However, even hardcore feminists will see that her being on the grid is net negative - it's just not true that the way to the top is to shag the boss...

groomi

9,317 posts

245 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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I think it's important to consider the role a test/development driver plays compared to a race driver. The first is all about consistency, feedback and accuracy of communication. The latter is all about the cut and thrust of beating the other drivers on the track.

Look at Luca Badoer as an example of an excellent test and development driver, but when given the chance to race in a competitive car he was hopeless. To a lesser degree Pedro De La Rosa and Alex Wurz, renowned as excellent test/development drivers but never shone in their races.

People on here are too quick to dismiss drivers as being 'crap'. NOBODY who drives an F1 car is a crap, not even Taki Inoue. There may well be other more deserving, or faster drivers but that doesn't dismiss them as 'crap'.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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btcc123 said:
VolvoT5 said:
btcc123 said:
I heard Pat Symmonds comments of Sky that if Bottas was not fit for the next race then Susie Wolff would not drive.

Why not
Because she is crap. Every time she has run the car she has been seconds off the pace.
Free practice 1 Germany:

The experiment with Susie Wolff is over for now. In her second and final outing this year, she put in a respectable performance, finishing just two-tenths behind her team-mate.
While it is impossible to gauge how impressive her drive was, she exceeded the expectations of her Williams team, who set the Scot the target of being 0.5s behind Felipe Massa.

Official F1 Test Silverstone:

Experienced Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, who was on track at the same time as Wolff, praised her impressive full track debut.

"She was pretty quick," said the Brazilian. "I was very happy for her when I saw her lap times.

"It would be good for a team to push Susie in driving at the races and it would be very interesting for everybody to have her in Formula 1."


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 15th March 21:35
Look at the YDTs of the last year or two. They can all turn in good times but they won't be given drives, because that's the easy bit.

Face it. She has NO track record worth speaking about. It would be a shameful day for F1 if she got to drive in a race.


Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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REALIST123 said:
Face it. She has NO track record worth speaking about. It would be a shameful day for F1 if she got to drive in a race.
But have that day if Bottas is still not fit enough, and be done with it. The shame will be hers if she performs badly.

slipstream 1985

12,446 posts

181 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Hello!!!

btcc123

1,243 posts

149 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Some Gump said:
BTCC123, I realise it's your job as forum troll to poke the bear - but what exactly did you expect Massa to say? "Yeah, the boss' bit on the side got the keys, she was st"?

I used to know Susie when I was a kid. She was st. Several other girls on the girls were way, way better. She then went on to a career being st in single seat, and woeful in DTM. Finally, she married a team owner and got an F1 drive. Nothing - not 1 race, ever would make anyone want to pay her to drive their car on the basis of performance.

I'm not for a second saying Susie is anythng but a lovely girl. However, even hardcore feminists will see that her being on the grid is net negative - it's just not true that the way to the top is to shag the boss...
Troll you say.Well I am sure Susie thought you were a toss*r as a kid and I guess your nickname relates to Forrest Gump a slow-witted and naïve tw*t.

Smollet

10,832 posts

192 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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btcc123 said:
Troll you say.Well I am sure Susie thought you were a toss*r as a kid and I guess your nickname relates to Forrest Gump a slow-witted and naïve tw*t.
Do you actually know for a fact that Susie thought he was a tosser?

BritishRacinGrin

24,809 posts

162 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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btcc123 said:
Troll you say.Well I am sure Susie thought you were a toss*r as a kid and I guess your nickname relates to Forrest Gump a slow-witted and naïve tw*t.
Wow what a dick.

Some Gump said:
girls on the girls were way, way better.
ears tell me more!

TISPKJ

3,651 posts

209 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Not an expert on F1 by any stretch of the imagination but as it turns out she may well have finished in the points which would have at least salvaged something for the team.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Sex is irrelevant, only performance matters. smile