Qualifying 2016 style (could be fun ? ? )
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122937
This could/might/should be good for a laugh, if you can keep up
This could/might/should be good for a laugh, if you can keep up
They'll still whinge about traffic.
It won't be about finding the fastest though because as all cars will have to be on track for the duration of the session then it means they'll have to be fuelled up to last as long as they expect/hope to. I can't say i liked the knockout system, but this new idea sounds gimmicky and won't solve any problems. The least they could do is stop giving penalties for "blocking", it's up to the teams and drivers where they release their cars and the car in front should always have priority irrespective of whatever type of lap it's on and whatever end of the pitlane it comes from. Or the car behind could, y'know, overtake them.
It won't be about finding the fastest though because as all cars will have to be on track for the duration of the session then it means they'll have to be fuelled up to last as long as they expect/hope to. I can't say i liked the knockout system, but this new idea sounds gimmicky and won't solve any problems. The least they could do is stop giving penalties for "blocking", it's up to the teams and drivers where they release their cars and the car in front should always have priority irrespective of whatever type of lap it's on and whatever end of the pitlane it comes from. Or the car behind could, y'know, overtake them.
Autosport said:
Details on how the new qualifying format will work exactly have yet to be decided, but the general outline has been agreed.
Q1 will now last 16 minutes and after seven minutes the slowest driver will take no further part in the session.
Every 90 seconds thereafter, the slowest will be knocked out until there are only 15 drivers remaining.
After a short break, Q2 will commence and last 15 minutes with the slowest driver eliminated after six minutes.
As was the case in Q1, the slowest driver at the time will be knocked out at 90-second intervals until eight remain.
Q3 will last 14 minutes and see the process repeated again with the slowest taking no further part after five minutes.
The next five drivers will drop out at 90-second intervals leaving the final two drivers to fight it out for pole in the final 90 seconds.
I like it although they should make it one long session with no stops, refueling and race-pace pitstops. Slowest drops out every 90 seconds down to the final two. Q1 will now last 16 minutes and after seven minutes the slowest driver will take no further part in the session.
Every 90 seconds thereafter, the slowest will be knocked out until there are only 15 drivers remaining.
After a short break, Q2 will commence and last 15 minutes with the slowest driver eliminated after six minutes.
As was the case in Q1, the slowest driver at the time will be knocked out at 90-second intervals until eight remain.
Q3 will last 14 minutes and see the process repeated again with the slowest taking no further part after five minutes.
The next five drivers will drop out at 90-second intervals leaving the final two drivers to fight it out for pole in the final 90 seconds.
Kind of like the Elimination Races in Real Racing 3, a racing version of Musical Chairs if you will. Might add a little more drama to qualifying.
Edited by MiniMan64 on Tuesday 23 February 21:01
R1 Indy said:
Would tyres not be the limiting factor in this? As they wont be able to do 16 mins flat out?
Unless they do 1 or 2 flying laps, then cruise the rest to comply, making this rule pointless?...
Qualifying on high fuel again. At least with these new green engines they'll be burning less fuel while tootling around for the last 10 minutes.Unless they do 1 or 2 flying laps, then cruise the rest to comply, making this rule pointless?...
R1 Indy said:
Would tyres not be the limiting factor in this? As they wont be able to do 16 mins flat out?
Unless they do 1 or 2 flying laps, then cruise the rest to comply, making this rule pointless?...
Indeed. Ham could go out on track, smash a lap, then he has to dodder around getting in people's way for the next 15 minutes. Unless they do 1 or 2 flying laps, then cruise the rest to comply, making this rule pointless?...
What a joke.
hornetrider said:
Indeed. Ham could go out on track, smash a lap, then he has to dodder around getting in people's way for the next 15 minutes.
What a joke.
He does that on the old system.What a joke.
But if he cock up his first fast lap it means he's got to get out in the middle of the session to try again rather than waiting until the last minute. Therefore more time on track and more for us to see.
Vaud said:
To be honest, I don't think the qualifying "show" is the issue right now so am slightly bemused by the change - I don't think it was broken...
This. It just show's how out of touch they are when they are trying to fix one of the only things in F1 that isn't broken.Fair play to Mercedes for being dominant and clever, but until some of the other teams catch up and we have 2 or 3 cars at the front that can stay with each other and race then F1 will continue to lose it's fan base.
qualifying was fine. This sounds like a clusterf
k waiting to happen, the eliminated cars slowing down while others are on a fast lap, in q1 when the most cars will be on track, at Monaco, good luck with that.hornetrider said:
R1 Indy said:
Would tyres not be the limiting factor in this? As they wont be able to do 16 mins flat out?
Unless they do 1 or 2 flying laps, then cruise the rest to comply, making this rule pointless?...
Indeed. Ham could go out on track, smash a lap, then he has to dodder around getting in people's way for the next 15 minutes. Unless they do 1 or 2 flying laps, then cruise the rest to comply, making this rule pointless?...
What a joke.
fuzzyyo said:
I'm looking forward to the new format. It should be more exciting than the current rules. Although I would have applied the count outs across the full 60mins, scrap the enforced breaks and allow refuelling.
Problem with that is that you can imagine Lewis or Nico blitzing it within the first five minutes, and then sitting out the next 45 or 55 minutes until their lap-time comes under threat. At least re-setting the clock three times raises the element of consistency required, and if there was one long session with rain after 10 minutes, the remaining 50 minutes of the session just become pointless as drivers are sitting ducks for elimination.To be honest I don't think it will affect the big teams. But it makes the mid-field a lot more interesting and at least gives you something to focus on for the best part of an hour. Can't speak for the rest of you, but I'm from the video game/ smart phone generation where we struggle to focus on anything for longer than 90s, and so this new format is perfect for me. At the moment each session is approximately 15 minutes of procession followed by a frantic flurry for the final 30s. They had to do something to spice it up and they have - so fair play to them.
It reminds me of a book I read when I was younger, Hovercar racer by Matthew Reilly.
The changes do sound exciting and I'm curious to see if they will increase the excitement of qualifying! As mentioned previously, the drivers who are consistently knocking low times in will still spend more time in the pits than on track but the mid and low end of the field will be on track as much as possible.
The changes do sound exciting and I'm curious to see if they will increase the excitement of qualifying! As mentioned previously, the drivers who are consistently knocking low times in will still spend more time in the pits than on track but the mid and low end of the field will be on track as much as possible.
craigsup said:
It reminds me of a book I read when I was younger, Hovercar racer by Matthew Reilly.
The changes do sound exciting and I'm curious to see if they will increase the excitement of qualifying! As mentioned previously, the drivers who are consistently knocking low times in will still spend more time in the pits than on track but the mid and low end of the field will be on track as much as possible.
I thought I read somewhere that all drivers have to be out on track for the duration of the session until they are eliminated? Might be wrong though.The changes do sound exciting and I'm curious to see if they will increase the excitement of qualifying! As mentioned previously, the drivers who are consistently knocking low times in will still spend more time in the pits than on track but the mid and low end of the field will be on track as much as possible.
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