The Official 2017 Austrian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[Dr Z]

It’s race week. The Mondays are just that bit brighter on a race week.

Date(s): Friday 07 July - Sunday 09 July 2017

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1, with the Channel 4 highlights indicated below.

Session	Day	Sky F1	Channel 4	Session Start	Local Time
Practice 1	Fri	0845	-	0900	1000
Practice 2	Fri	1245	-	1300	1400
Practice 3	Sat	0945	-	1000	1100
Qualifying	Sat	1200	1730	1300	1400
Race	Sun	1130	1745	1300	1400

Red Bull Ring (née Österreichring)




2016 Grand Prix





Some snapshots from the weekend;

Exciting wet qualifying with JB and Hulk in their element.




Seb retired with a tyre blowout;


Nico and Lewis came together helping to avert a Mercedes 1-2


Lewis won the race.


Live timing for all sessions available here:

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/f1-...

I’m not sure this official live timing is free anymore for non-subscribers?

Weather forecast:

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Austria/A1-...


Event timings, steward decisions, technical reports and laptimes for the weekend will appear here:

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-ch...

The tyre choices:


Some track/tyre info;

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Lots of interest for this race.

Ferrari v Mercedes v Red Bull?
Hamilton v Vettel
Vettel v FIA
Alonso v Honda RA617H
Force India vs the rest of the midfield
Perez v Ocon
Max v DNF
Etc.

Keep it clean and here’s to some good banter!

Edited by Dr Z on Monday 3rd July 14:47

[ajprice]

Who is Ferrari's 3rd/reserve driver? Just in case they need him

I'm expecting it to be a Merc 1-2, Ferrari or Red Bull 3rd.

[Andy S15]

The most excited I've been for a race in a long time. Maximum hype leading up to this one following Baku, lets hope for a good race!

[Leroy902]

Andy S15 said:

The most excited I've been for a race in a long time. Maximum hype leading up to this one following Baku, lets hope for a good race!

[Doink]

ajprice said:

Who is Ferrari's 3rd/reserve driver? Just in case they need him

I'm expecting it to be a Merc 1-2, Ferrari or Red Bull 3rd.

Antonio Giovinazzi I think, loaned out to sauber a few times for a few FP1 outings, certain to replace Vettel if he gets banned probably sometime after the British GP but expect him to take lots of power unit penalties, probably one of every element just to save Vettel having to and starting from the back...........crafty them Ferrari folk are!

[Doink]

Interesting to watch Lewis through turn 3, not sure it's his favourite corner and from what I could see he's never mastered it, always locks up into it, wide on the apex and slow out

[Sylvaforever]

Ah well another sat/sun dodging the early evening news...

[vournikas]

Dr Z said:

Red Bull Ring (née Österreichring)

See, I'm always a bit but also a bit

I do miss the cars tackling the old Osterreichring (how does one get that umlaut above German vowels on here????), but still love the spectacle of F1 cars tearing through the Alpine countryside on a track that is now - effectively - an Austrian Strohe '80 shot of racing goodness.

[Drive Blind]

Doink said:

Interesting to watch Lewis through turn 3, not sure it's his favourite corner and from what I could see he's never mastered it, always locks up into it, wide on the apex and slow out

tbf Rosberg had the inside and forgot to turn the wheel

[GuitarTech]

"I do miss the cars tackling the old Osterreichring (how does one get that umlaut above German vowels on here????), but still love the spectacle of F1 cars tearing through the Alpine countryside on a track that is now - effectively - an Austrian Strohe '80 shot of racing goodness."

If you don't have them on your keyboard, you can substitute them so: Oestereichring (for example) It's the same thing, just written differently.
In fact, all Umlaut letters ( Ö, Ü, Ä ), can be written alternativly with an E after the letter: OE, UA, AE

Edited by GuitarTech on Monday 3rd July 23:52

Edited by GuitarTech on Tuesday 4th July 17:50

[thegreenhell]

Looks like some rain forecast for Sunday.

[sparta6]

Doink said:

Interesting to watch Lewis through turn 3, not sure it's his favourite corner and from what I could see he's never mastered it, always locks up into it, wide on the apex and slow out

I'm sure Max has been studying the video

[Frimley111R]

I don't think I can watch this. It'll be 50% grand prix and 50% 'So about that Hamilton/Vettel incident' FFS, its utterly dominating all F1 news and driving me nuts!!!!

[Dr Z]

vournikas said:

Dr Z said:

Red Bull Ring (née Österreichring)

See, I'm always a bit but also a bit

I do miss the cars tackling the old Osterreichring (how does one get that umlaut above German vowels on here????), but still love the spectacle of F1 cars tearing through the Alpine countryside on a track that is now - effectively - an Austrian Strohe '80 shot of racing goodness.

There were some reports last year, of plans to revive the old layout. Not sure what came of it. I love the old layout, but I feel that it makes the circuit too 1-D with only fast and flowing bits. The newer T1 and T2/T3 sections make it an interesting technical challenge for the drivers & interms of car setup, IMO.

Doink said:

Interesting to watch Lewis through turn 3, not sure it's his favourite corner and from what I could see he's never mastered it, always locks up into it, wide on the apex and slow out

From what I've seen bits of, Hamilton's approach to this corner would be slow in, fast out. However, the uphill braking makes it tricky to judge the braking point as, you wouldn't want to give too much away in the braking zone to get the car set up for the exit--lot of time to be gained there as it's quite a heavy braking zone.

[Doink]

Dr Z said:

vournikas said:

Dr Z said:

Red Bull Ring (née Österreichring)

See, I'm always a bit but also a bit

I do miss the cars tackling the old Osterreichring (how does one get that umlaut above German vowels on here????), but still love the spectacle of F1 cars tearing through the Alpine countryside on a track that is now - effectively - an Austrian Strohe '80 shot of racing goodness.

There were some reports last year, of plans to revive the old layout. Not sure what came of it. I love the old layout, but I feel that it makes the circuit too 1-D with only fast and flowing bits. The newer T1 and T2/T3 sections make it an interesting technical challenge for the drivers & interms of car setup, IMO.

Doink said:

Interesting to watch Lewis through turn 3, not sure it's his favourite corner and from what I could see he's never mastered it, always locks up into it, wide on the apex and slow out

From what I've seen bits of, Hamilton's approach to this corner would be slow in, fast out. However, the uphill braking makes it tricky to judge the braking point as, you wouldn't want to give too much away in the braking zone to get the car set up for the exit--lot of time to be gained there as it's quite a heavy braking zone.

And also a good run down to turn 4 in a DRS zone so he needs good exits if he's to survive or even if he's to overtake anyone he'll need a good exit to boost his DRS speed

[M3ax]

Looking forward to this race. WDC is close, there's a bit of needle now and they all know they can run into each other with minimal penalties

[Supersam83]

Really looking forward to this race.

• Hamilton/Vettel fallout (from press conferences to the track)
• Red Bull's home race (coming after Riccardo's win last time out and Renault engine upgrade)
• Force India pace (Also Perez Vs Ocon Part 3)
• Hulkenberg beating Palmer again

I just really hope that Ferrari can keep up the development work and stay in touch with Mercedes because it's looks like Mercedes have found a slight step recently.

[glazbagun]

ash73 said:

Honda have an engine upgrade for this race according to SkySports.

I can hardly wait.

Is this the point where Alonso said he wanted victories or he was going to walk? It better be an absolute monster three years in the making!

[daidark]

Frimley111R said:

I don't think I can watch this. It'll be 50% grand prix and 50% 'So about that Hamilton/Vettel incident' FFS, its utterly dominating all F1 news and driving me nuts!!!!

Calm down its not every day we get road rage in race and some certain team is allowed to get away with it? I see sparks flying this weekend.

[F1GTRUeno]

glazbagun said:

I can hardly wait.

Is this the point where Alonso said he wanted victories or he was going to walk? It better be an absolute monster three years in the making!

If it's only 10mph down heading up the hill to turn 2 they'll have made progress.