The Official 2016 Mexico Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 Mexico Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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glazbagun

14,317 posts

199 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Bristol spark said:
Whats the chances of Max and Rosberg coming together........
Fairly high I reckon. Max was asked if he felt that Rosberg would be a light touch as he might not want to risk his lead with any hard racing. I didn't catch exactly the reply, but it was something to the tune of "I don't care". I think both Mercs really need a clean getaway here.

It can't be fun having Max and Ricciardo snapping at your heels when all you're wanting to do is blast off into the distance. I can see Rosberg being caught if he doesn't beat Hamilton to the first corner, and likewise can see Hamilton fluffing the start and Rosberg vanishing into the distance if the RB's split the Mercs.

Should be an interesting first few laps at least! smile

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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The tarmac used on this track is very strange, its polishing the tyre rather than allowing a chemical binding.

What will be key tomorrow will be who can switch the tyres on, because if they cant, they will be nowhere. More so than any other race this year.

coetzeeh

2,665 posts

238 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
They also wasted a set of new super softs in Q2 when it was pretty clear they were within the cut off time. The whole team seems to be in melt down.
Karun explained that Kimi was putting a heat cycle through the tyres to use in the race tomorrow - a fresh set being driven hard blister/grain very soon but with heat cycle through them the tyres cure and perform much better. It may turn out to be a clever move.

Otispunkmeyer

12,682 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Calling it now. Hamilton to bungle the start and end up 5th after T1.

Adrian W

14,071 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Calling it now. Hamilton to bungle the start and end up 5th after T1.
Hamilton to win, Rosberg to crash, blow up , have several punctures , kers failure , all on lap one

MartG

20,765 posts

206 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Adrian W said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
Calling it now. Hamilton to bungle the start and end up 5th after T1.
Hamilton to win, Rosberg to crash, blow up , have several punctures , kers failure , all on lap one
You forgot about him having Max's Red Bull embedded in the side of his car wink

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Rosberg will under engage the clutch on launch and Vettel will ram him up the arse, both will retire.

Kimi's engine will fail 1 lap from winning handing the win to Hamilton.

Hulkenberg will finish 2nd after Max takes Daniel out by moving in the braking zone.

Alonso will finish 3rd.

drink

Matt_N

8,906 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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RichB said:
jbudgie said:
Sylvaforever said:
The most telling thing, over the last few races, is to watch the reaction of the Mercedes management, that tells you all you need to know about the team dynamic.
What do you see there ?
Well? scratchchin
My guess is the cut to the Merc garage cheering when Rosberg took second although it could easily have been on delay for Lewis' pole lap or the whole team celebrating another 1-2.

Flooble

5,565 posts

102 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Matt_N said:
RichB said:
jbudgie said:
Sylvaforever said:
The most telling thing, over the last few races, is to watch the reaction of the Mercedes management, that tells you all you need to know about the team dynamic.
What do you see there ?
Well? scratchchin
My guess is the cut to the Merc garage cheering when Rosberg took second although it could easily have been on delay for Lewis' pole lap or the whole team celebrating another 1-2.
I would guess the same and realistically don't feel you can read that much into it. Rosberg did pull an amazing recovery after having been a long way back, so that would be something to celebrate for the team if only in the sense of "amazing save".

Sadly I fear this will be another "brilliant practice and qualifying, then fluff the start" job for Hamilton. Long long run to first corner so same as Japan. For someone with a reputation as a racer he's also struggled to climb back through the field this year and last year was stuck behind Rosberg the whole race. Could be a miserable weekend for him watching Rosberg (who has only made a couple of poor starts compared with every-other-weekend for Lewis) disappear off to a 40+ point advantage.

Dr Z

3,396 posts

173 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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jsf said:
The tarmac used on this track is very strange, its polishing the tyre rather than allowing a chemical binding.

What will be key tomorrow will be who can switch the tyres on, because if they cant, they will be nowhere. More so than any other race this year.
I got the impression that it was specific to the Super Soft compound, allied to a spike in track temps yesterday compared to FP3? It could explain Ferrari dropping pace on that tyre vs Soft after looking good on it on Friday/FP3.

Don't remember these problems last year when they used Soft/Medium?

Edited by Dr Z on Sunday 30th October 09:18

RichB

51,898 posts

286 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Matt_N said:
RichB said:
jbudgie said:
Sylvaforever said:
The most telling thing, over the last few races, is to watch the reaction of the Mercedes management, that tells you all you need to know about the team dynamic.
What do you see there ?
Well? scratchchin
My guess is the cut to the Merc garage cheering when Rosberg took second although it could easily have been on delay for Lewis' pole lap or the whole team celebrating another 1-2.
Lauda & Wolff delighted that the team have a 1/2 when it looked highly unlikely until that moment. I was interested to know what Sylva read into it of such significance.

Bonefish Blues

27,348 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Vaud said:
Away from the race weekend for a moment... wishing Frank Williams a speedy recovery.
Indeed.

red_slr

17,462 posts

191 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Bonefish Blues said:
Vaud said:
Away from the race weekend for a moment... wishing Frank Williams a speedy recovery.
Indeed.
Yep top bloke

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Some of the comments on here. Just sad.

Even if both Mercedes get off the line the straight is so long I would not be surprised to see a Red Bull in 1st or 2nd going into turn one.

Hopefully a clean straight fight and a better GP than Austin.

Bonefish Blues

27,348 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Some of the comments on here. Just sad.

Even if both Mercedes get off the line the straight is so long I would not be surprised to see a Red Bull in 1st or 2nd going into turn one.

Hopefully a clean straight fight and a better GP than Austin.
Can we set the bar a bit higher? hehe

jbudgie

9,007 posts

214 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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RichB said:
Matt_N said:
RichB said:
jbudgie said:
Sylvaforever said:
The most telling thing, over the last few races, is to watch the reaction of the Mercedes management, that tells you all you need to know about the team dynamic.
What do you see there ?
Well? scratchchin
My guess is the cut to the Merc garage cheering when Rosberg took second although it could easily have been on delay for Lewis' pole lap or the whole team celebrating another 1-2.
Lauda & Wolff delighted that the team have a 1/2 when it looked highly unlikely until that moment. I was interested to know what Sylva read into it of such significance.
Sylva does say the 'last few races' so not sure what he is seeing in the Merc garage.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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Just out of interest if Rosberg does wrap up the championship today where does everyone rate him compared to other one time champions (I'm pretty convinced if he does win it will be his only one)?
I quite like Rosberg, I would like to see him win one and I think he is better than people give him credit for. Having said that given his occasional lack of race craft and fortune to be driving a car in a class of its own I struggle to put him on the same level as peak Button, Raikkonen or Hill (the only other 1 time winners I can recall in my viewing life time).


37chevy

3,280 posts

158 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
Just out of interest if Rosberg does wrap up the championship today where does everyone rate him compared to other one time champions (I'm pretty convinced if he does win it will be his only one)?
I quite like Rosberg, I would like to see him win one and I think he is better than people give him credit for. Having said that given his occasional lack of race craft and fortune to be driving a car in a class of its own I struggle to put him on the same level as peak Button, Raikkonen or Hill (the only other 1 time winners I can recall in my viewing life time).
Not as good as hill or button

Maybe on par with kimi who also profited from problems for Lewis with a bald tyre in China and team orders within Ferrari

Would nico make a worthy champion? 'Maybe..I actually think he's driven extremely well this year...probably the best he's ever driven...it's just a shame that Lewis has had so many issues that may rightly or wrongly tarnish nicos moment

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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37chevy said:
Not as good as hill or button

Maybe on par with kimi who also profited from problems for Lewis with a bald tyre in China and team orders within Ferrari

Would nico make a worthy champion? 'Maybe..I actually think he's driven extremely well this year...probably the best he's ever driven...it's just a shame that Lewis has had so many issues that may rightly or wrongly tarnish nicos moment
Don't get me wrong I think Nico will be a worthy winner as it isn't his fault Lewis has had issues. However I just can't put him on the same level as those other guys at their peak... they competed against the likes of Schumacher and Alonso in reasonably equal equipment and have had sustained success in multiple teams. With Rosberg one can't help but wonder if it is a case of being in the right place at the right time?

Then again Vettel's 4 championships doesn't look quite so amazing in the light of 2014 and now 2016.

edit:
of course Jacques Villeneuve was a 1 time winner as well.


Wills2

23,328 posts

177 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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I think the fans and media sometimes don't give Rosberg the credit he deserves for staying the course against Lewis, he's come off second best at every turn since they've been team mates and all through their careers, but he's held it together this year and capitalised on the chances that have come his way.

I think it would be pretty easy to let that all get to you and fluff it, but he hasn't so far this season.