Official 2023 Saudi Arabia Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Discussion
sociopath said:
vaud said:
Dingu said:
A grid penalty for the second race due to parts used is pretty good going.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-set-for...That is quite an achievement.
vaud said:
Dingu said:
A grid penalty for the second race due to parts used is pretty good going.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-set-for...That is quite an achievement.
kING JOB Sandpit Steve said:
paulguitar said:
That 2021 Saidi Arabia GP was properly stressful. Verstappen had binned it in quali and was acting properly unbalanced throughout the race. I was genuinely relieved after it was over that nobody had been injured.
Yep, it was a massive relief at the end of that race, that somehow no-one ended up in the hospital. I’ve never seen a clearer case for a black flag in F1, than brake-testing another driver around a 300km/h unsighted curve.
Frimley111R said:
I agree, they've taken a front running car out of the competition of the race already. Everyone loses out. How far will we be into the season before half the grid is serving penalties? It's all got a bit excessive. I understand why they do it but the execution needs looking at
Why would half the grid be serving penalties? Another project said:
vaud said:
Dingu said:
A grid penalty for the second race due to parts used is pretty good going.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-set-for...That is quite an achievement.
kING JOB k me they make it hard sometimes.Red9zero said:
Another project said:
vaud said:
Dingu said:
A grid penalty for the second race due to parts used is pretty good going.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-set-for...That is quite an achievement.
kING JOB k me they make it hard sometimes.and in quali a bit of his car fell off..
pfft.
Jasandjules said:
Niponeoff said:
But the brake checking was wrong so no one can deny that and max rightfully got the penalty.
Tell me what penalty you think you would get in ANY other motorsport for brake testing your opponent ..If you consider the fact Max was trying to let Lewis past at the time, the reason for applying brakes might not be so hard to understand (from Max's pov, which has to be considered).
The way that he did though was inappropriate and along with the evaluation of the entire manoeuvre, circumstances and outcome, the penalty was appropriate. But I think we're getting side tracked now.
You are quite welcome to think otherwise, which I'm sure you do. I'm just answering your question, but I don't require a reply or intend to get into an argument with you.
Niponeoff said:
Jasandjules said:
Niponeoff said:
But the brake checking was wrong so no one can deny that and max rightfully got the penalty.
Tell me what penalty you think you would get in ANY other motorsport for brake testing your opponent ..If you consider the fact Max was trying to let Lewis past at the time, the reason for applying brakes might not be so hard to understand (from Max's pov, which has to be considered).
The way that he did though was inappropriate and along with the evaluation of the entire manoeuvre, circumstances and outcome, the penalty was appropriate. But I think we're getting side tracked now.
You are quite welcome to think otherwise, which I'm sure you do. I'm just answering your question, but I don't require a reply or intend to get into an argument with you.
There's little point looking into the detail of each incident that season though as any of them could have been a result of 'influence' or team pre-planning or perfectly innocent on track incidents. But taken as a whole, there did seem to be some forces at play to keep the two champion contenders roughly neck and neck - and both teams naturally trying to make the other miss a step and falter in some way.
Byker28i said:
PD9 said:
Max will drive himself off into the sunset and well on his way to a third WDC. No one can hold a candle to him at the moment; he’s just so far ahead of everyone else.
The rest of the field will be exciting to watch.
Stinky bait is obviousThe rest of the field will be exciting to watch.
oyster said:
Sandpit Steve said:
paulguitar said:
That 2021 Saidi Arabia GP was properly stressful. Verstappen had binned it in quali and was acting properly unbalanced throughout the race. I was genuinely relieved after it was over that nobody had been injured.
Yep, it was a massive relief at the end of that race, that somehow no-one ended up in the hospital. I’ve never seen a clearer case for a black flag in F1, than brake-testing another driver around a 300km/h unsighted curve.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fP2XhiwezYs
Down to 100kph, another car coming up behind these two would have been totally unsighted and likely caused a very serious accident. It’s a dangerous track, and such dangerous behaviour was well out of order.
Piginapoke said:
PhilAsia said:
Sandpit Steve said:
paulguitar said:
That 2021 Saidi Arabia GP was properly stressful. Verstappen had binned it in quali and was acting properly unbalanced throughout the race. I was genuinely relieved after it was over that nobody had been injured.
Yep, it was a massive relief at the end of that race, that somehow no-one ended up in the hospital. I’ve never seen a clearer case for a black flag in F1, than brake-testing another driver around a 300km/h unsighted curve.
Here it is again: https://youtu.be/QS4Z38HhsMc
Edited by Piginapoke on Wednesday 15th March 08:22
As was reported at the time by the stewards "The driver of Car 33 stated that he was wondering why Car 44 had not overtaken and the driver of Car 44 stated that, not having been aware at that stage that Car 33 was giving the position back, was unaware of the reason Car 33 was slowing. In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration."
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