Official 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Deesee said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Interesting comments by BOT over team radio after the finish 
You mean this one...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw2IRicgWau/?hl=en
Bot 2.0
Nice to see VB step up this year though, could see him in red next year.
TheDeuce said:
Mr Tidy said:
That's what put me off Schumacher - he didn't mind having a crash if it gave him an advantage.
Which is ironic really, because despite being German he didn't care if he got it 'properly' or not - just so long as he got it!
He is a racer, foremost. I'm sure also germanical in general life.Which is ironic really, because despite being German he didn't care if he got it 'properly' or not - just so long as he got it!
But when an entire team is germanically driven, you get a Germanic result. They don't want the trophy for the glory, they want to work on and conquer the formula that will achieve that trophy. And that's what they have done. They have taken the regs, distilled what it takes to win and then persistently applied 'the correct answer' to each season. It's just their way, and it's a very, very good way
CustardOnChips said:
Is that the German team that is based in England with an Austrian team principle, and a British and Finish driver?
It's very difficult to know from outside how much Mercedes tried/managed to force their corporate culture onto the team. Usually when a large multinational buys out a small company there's a brief but very intense period of corporate brainwashing to force the acquisition into line with the parent company's policies and general ethos. Whether that happened in this case, I've no idea. kambites said:
It's very difficult to know from outside how much Mercedes tried/managed to force their corporate culture onto the team. Usually when a large multinational buys out a small company there's a brief but very intense period of corporate brainwashing to force the acquisition into line with the parent company's policies and general ethos. Whether that happened in this case, I've no idea.
I'd imagine, by its nature, an F1 racing team would want to operate with a different culture to a lumbering conglomerate corporate.The premises at Brackley were variously Reynard, BAR, Honda and Brawn before becoming Mercedes (and I think the team is 30‰ owned to TW). I'd imagine there will have been some personnel with experience of most of those incarnations.
janesmith1950 said:
I'd imagine, by its nature, an F1 racing team would want to operate with a different culture to a lumbering conglomerate corporate.
Every acquisition ever wants to continue operate with a different culture to the lumbering conglomerate that buys it; they rarely succeed though. 
In this case I really have no idea whether the team views itself as "the Mercedes F1 team" or as "the Brackley F1 team". Anyone who works there care to comment? We must have someone on here.
kambites said:
CustardOnChips said:
Is that the German team that is based in England with an Austrian team principle, and a British and Finish driver?
It's very difficult to know from outside how much Mercedes tried/managed to force their corporate culture onto the team. Usually when a large multinational buys out a small company there's a brief but very intense period of corporate brainwashing to force the acquisition into line with the parent company's policies and general ethos. Whether that happened in this case, I've no idea. kambites said:
It's very difficult to know from outside how much Mercedes tried/managed to force their corporate culture onto the team.
Apologies for singling your post out but it’s posts like this that turns what could be an interesting post race analysis into a round robin of rubbish.If you don’t know what you’re on about, why post it?
Or why not do some research? It’s been stated in numerous interviews and case studies on the F1 team just how little Mercedes the parent company have to do with the F1 team.
That’s their whole business plan.
They’ve seen how other manufacturers have utterly failed at F1 and have decided to do it the opposite way.
The only thing the Mercedes board have control over is the signing off of budget based on results. They control nothing within the F1 team.
Again, sorry for singling out your post, it’s by far not the most drivel that’s been posted since Sunday.
Some posters need to figure out it isn’t quantity but quality that makes for interesting reading. That and just because you post every five minutes it doesn’t make it any more sensible.
For what it’s worth IMHO Baku was an interesting race, won by the guy who made the least mistakes. Definitely not a great example of any fine racing by anyone in the top six.
Had fewer mistakes been made, any one of BOT, VER, LEC, HAM or VET could have won.
Fair point.
I think the problem with Baku as a circuit is that the only real interest comes from people crashing and the subsequent bunching up/mixing of strategies under the safety car while they struggle to clear the circuit. In a relatively clean race with no safety car it's just not a particularly interesting track from a spectator's perspective.
I think the problem with Baku as a circuit is that the only real interest comes from people crashing and the subsequent bunching up/mixing of strategies under the safety car while they struggle to clear the circuit. In a relatively clean race with no safety car it's just not a particularly interesting track from a spectator's perspective.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 30th April 09:36
coppice said:
Is that why only 32 people turned up on the day? Maybe all the locals in the glorious democratic republic were at home - but they wouldn't be watching the race as this bastion of democracy bans access to most foreign media by its grateful citizens..
You really are the voice of doom on here!kambites said:
Fair point.
I think the problem with Baku as a circuit is that the only real interest comes from people crashing and the subsequent bunching up/mixing of strategies under the safety car while they struggle to clear the circuit. In a relatively clean race with no safety car it's just not a particularly interesting track from a spectator's perspective.
I heard a C4 announcer describe it as "where the cars go round and round, until they don't". Made me laugh anyway I think the problem with Baku as a circuit is that the only real interest comes from people crashing and the subsequent bunching up/mixing of strategies under the safety car while they struggle to clear the circuit. In a relatively clean race with no safety car it's just not a particularly interesting track from a spectator's perspective.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 30th April 09:36
rallycross said:
coppice said:
Is that why only 32 people turned up on the day? Maybe all the locals in the glorious democratic republic were at home - but they wouldn't be watching the race as this bastion of democracy bans access to most foreign media by its grateful citizens..
You really are the voice of doom on here!It's a feature of "cults" to decry anybody who highlights bad news or warns of problems ahead.
rallycross said:
coppice said:
Is that why only 32 people turned up on the day? Maybe all the locals in the glorious democratic republic were at home - but they wouldn't be watching the race as this bastion of democracy bans access to most foreign media by its grateful citizens..
You really are the voice of doom on here!anonymous said:
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