Official 2022 Canadian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Murghee said:
Wonder if the big v12's will return...amount of harm all the privage jets and trucks cause may aswell get the old f1 cars back
Get real mate! It's about the message, not the practice. V12/10 will never return. All we have in front of us is further electrification. As we already have confirmed in the future PU regs.And anyway, F1 is proportionately about the cleanest sport on the planet, given it's viewership. A few private jets here and there won't change that.
Jonstar said:
Ferrari just didn't have the pace to challenge Red Bull today, the title is increasingly looking like a one horse race. Hamilton dropped George at some rate today on the same tyres after the safety car, no wonder I haven't heard from the Hamilton haters today. Overall a decent race.
There was no chance for Sainz today. DRS gives a little boost but it's of no use when the car you're chasing is almost as fast in straight line without it and both cars are so fast that the straight simply isn't long enough.Murghee said:
Max will be champion this season bit of a shame as thought it be a closer battle with charles from the first few races
Ah well lets see how next season goes because barring any big issues for max he is a "two" times world champion
Well, one and a half. Ah well lets see how next season goes because barring any big issues for max he is a "two" times world champion
Be nice for his fans for him to actually win a championship.
Somewhere in the distance, ddom's head has just exploded.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
g4ry13 said:
trando said:
Who is the female presenter in the pink jumpsuit?
Danica Patrick.She looks like a hobbit
Also a competent racing driver.
ddom said:
TheDeuce said:
And anyway, F1 is proportionately about the cleanest sport on the planet, given it's viewership. A few private jets here and there won't change that.
How? What has 'viewership got to do with 'clean'?It's one of the most dirty racing series out there.
If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 19th June 23:32
TheDeuce said:
The whole thing is a show. A spectacule. Divide the carbon cost per viewer and it's less than a person entertaining themselves by not watching F1 and going out for a bike ride.
If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
The sport is, and never will be clean A spectacle, absolutely but let’s not get carried away. If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 19th June 23:32
ddom said:
TheDeuce said:
The whole thing is a show. A spectacule. Divide the carbon cost per viewer and it's less than a person entertaining themselves by not watching F1 and going out for a bike ride.
If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
The sport is, and never will be clean A spectacle, absolutely but let’s not get carried away. If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 19th June 23:32
speedster said:
Why did Mercedes pit Russel so early?
He had plenty of life in the tires, (V)SC could come (as it did)
Only reason I can think of is keeping him behind Hamilton
Bit weird
Russell has been killing it in the Merc all season. He overtook Hamilton in Miami… that wasn’t supposed to happen going by pre-season posts from so. He’d be held back, not allowed to race or beat Hamilton. Clearly not the case. Hamilton ran a decent race with what he had and had track position over Russell who wasn’t anywhere near him at the finish. He had plenty of life in the tires, (V)SC could come (as it did)
Only reason I can think of is keeping him behind Hamilton
Bit weird
The team keeping him behind Lewis… nah, I think in this case your thought process is a bit weird
C70R said:
Many are in agreement with you. We've had some ste races this year.
The only difference this year is that instead of trains of cars following 2-3secs apart, they are now following at 1sec apart.
It does seem that F1 has managed to score a massive own goal with these rule changes. Billions of pounds spent, no positive change.The only difference this year is that instead of trains of cars following 2-3secs apart, they are now following at 1sec apart.
speedster said:
Why did Mercedes pit Russel so early?
He had plenty of life in the tires, (V)SC could come (as it did)
Only reason I can think of is keeping him behind Hamilton
Bit weird
With the benefit of hindsight, they could have left him out until the SC, but it would have made little difference with respect to his position in the race. If he’d had a 10 or 12 second gap to Lewis after LH pitted, he might have gained from the SC pit stop but the gap was only 8s and closing at a second a lap. He had plenty of life in the tires, (V)SC could come (as it did)
Only reason I can think of is keeping him behind Hamilton
Bit weird
The new tyres were around 0.800 a lap faster than the old ones, so the team were optimising the performance from both sets by stopping him when they did.
TheDeuce said:
The whole thing is a show. A spectacule. Divide the carbon cost per viewer and it's less than a person entertaining themselves by not watching F1 and going out for a bike ride.
If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
So the more people that watch the "greener" it becomes? Somehow negating all the emissions?If a billion people tune in, then it's simply not an issue what carbon/energy is used to race a mere 20 cars. And all the transport and logistics. Per head it's very good value - assuming that entertainment is something we wish to remain as we save the planet? It must be, we all tune in and watch.
Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 19th June 23:32
I went for a bike ride yesterday afternoon and now feel like an environmental terrorist - I should have watched the buildup instead.
I think you are reaching....
Zhou seemed a bit lively yesterday. Getting used to the car and F1 perhaps. He was a couple of seconds behind his teammate. I know the final pace car helped more than a bit but still good.
Ocon was 'best of the rest', if we don't include Merc. Improving a bit. Stroll's leaving Vettel behind.
When I saw that Albon was 13, my first thought was that it was not a good race for him. My second thought was that it was a very good race for a Williams. The bloke's quality.
The start was utterly uneventful, if you ignore the touch from Magnussen which cost him the race. It was unfortunate, and probably he did not have to come into the pits, but he doesn't seem to learn. He ended up last, that's behind a Williams and behind Latifi. A terrible race for Hass.
Leclerk didn't do that well, 19 to 5, getting past 13 drivers (if memory serves). I thought he might have made it to fourth.
Sainz didn't try a hail Mary. It could be that he was frightened of a DNF and finishing behind his teammate. As it is, he's 5th in the table, between the two underperforming Merc drivers.
Red Bull seem to have the WCC nicely packaged. There's a chance for Merc to go from 3rd in the table to second, dropping Ferrari. These three are well ahead of the opposition. Alpine doing well, and threatening McLaren. A team to watch? I don't rate Ocon, but he's ahead of his much more fancied, and not only by himself, Alonso.
McLaren disappointing, at least to me, a fan.
The Gatekeeper
Ocon was 'best of the rest', if we don't include Merc. Improving a bit. Stroll's leaving Vettel behind.
When I saw that Albon was 13, my first thought was that it was not a good race for him. My second thought was that it was a very good race for a Williams. The bloke's quality.
The start was utterly uneventful, if you ignore the touch from Magnussen which cost him the race. It was unfortunate, and probably he did not have to come into the pits, but he doesn't seem to learn. He ended up last, that's behind a Williams and behind Latifi. A terrible race for Hass.
Leclerk didn't do that well, 19 to 5, getting past 13 drivers (if memory serves). I thought he might have made it to fourth.
Sainz didn't try a hail Mary. It could be that he was frightened of a DNF and finishing behind his teammate. As it is, he's 5th in the table, between the two underperforming Merc drivers.
Red Bull seem to have the WCC nicely packaged. There's a chance for Merc to go from 3rd in the table to second, dropping Ferrari. These three are well ahead of the opposition. Alpine doing well, and threatening McLaren. A team to watch? I don't rate Ocon, but he's ahead of his much more fancied, and not only by himself, Alonso.
McLaren disappointing, at least to me, a fan.
The Gatekeeper
suffolk009 said:
C70R said:
Many are in agreement with you. We've had some ste races this year.
The only difference this year is that instead of trains of cars following 2-3secs apart, they are now following at 1sec apart.
It does seem that F1 has managed to score a massive own goal with these rule changes. Billions of pounds spent, no positive change.The only difference this year is that instead of trains of cars following 2-3secs apart, they are now following at 1sec apart.
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