Official 2022 Canadian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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London424 said:
Can we at least be honest in that the new rules haven’t improved the racing? In fact it seems that it’s turned things even more DRS reliant.
We still get the DRS trains where everyone is stuck, there seems to be fewer moves at any other point on the track. Yes the cars look like they can stay closer than before but to no end result.
Agreed, they have done nothing to improve racing, in effect they have created a set of rules knowing that only a few / one team would really understand them.We still get the DRS trains where everyone is stuck, there seems to be fewer moves at any other point on the track. Yes the cars look like they can stay closer than before but to no end result.
As for the budget cap, Red Bull will not care if they break it, I would not be surprised if they have not already broken it.
The budget cap is a daft idea, new rules and cars meant that it should have been £200m then dropping back over the next few years, I still cannot see how they will monitor it.
Ferrari looked promising at the start of the season but we all know that they would fall apart, Mercedes completely got it wrong Toto said himself they failed with understanding fully how to get the car to work.
Red Bull / Max to win every GP from now on does not interest me at all.
HustleRussell said:
suffolk009 said:
C70R said:
Many are in agreement with you. We've had some s
te races this year.
The only difference this year is that instead of trains of cars following 2-3secs apart, they are now following at 1sec apart.
It does seem that F1 has managed to score a massive own goal with these rule changes. Billions of pounds spent, no positive change.te races this year.The only difference this year is that instead of trains of cars following 2-3secs apart, they are now following at 1sec apart.
I like that cars can now follow closer for a lot longer with these cars, however it seems to me that the slipstream is so much weaker than before that cars are even more reliant on DRS to overtake. There also seems to be a bigger difference in straight line speed between cars which makes passing next to impossible for some if they are stuck behind a car that’s a missile on the straight.
That said, I think we saw a few overtakes in places that we wouldn’t have seen a few years ago. Russell made some good moves into the hairpin and we also so a few overtakes in the middles sector chicanes.
That said, I think we saw a few overtakes in places that we wouldn’t have seen a few years ago. Russell made some good moves into the hairpin and we also so a few overtakes in the middles sector chicanes.
It's pretty clear from watching this season that if the RB is behind the Ferrari it will likely pass using DRS on the straight, as the straight line speed is enough that with the added effect of DRS it can make an impact. If the Ferrari is behind the RB it will not likely pass unless the RB makes a mistake, as the RB has enough straight line speed it can hold on against the DRS boosted Ferrari.
NRS said:
It's pretty clear from watching this season that if the RB is behind the Ferrari it will likely pass using DRS on the straight, as the straight line speed is enough that with the added effect of DRS it can make an impact.
If the Ferrari is behind the RB it will not likely pass unless the RB makes a mistake, as the RB has enough straight line speed it can hold on against the DRS boosted Ferrari.
I dont know enough about aerodynamics to make any kind of educated comments but that was my thought too and it just seems a little odd to me.If the Ferrari is behind the RB it will not likely pass unless the RB makes a mistake, as the RB has enough straight line speed it can hold on against the DRS boosted Ferrari.
Murghee said:
Another race where carlos can not get past he just does not have that killer instinct
He had a chance to win his first gp last year when gasly won but carlos just could not get passed...needs to take a late breaking risk
Decent race wish vsc would be scrapped the all out safety is what makes it way more interesting
Sainz too nice not up to it. If it had been Alonso, Hamilton, Russell, K Mag in that Ferrari they would have had a serious go at overtaking Verstappen He had a chance to win his first gp last year when gasly won but carlos just could not get passed...needs to take a late breaking risk
Decent race wish vsc would be scrapped the all out safety is what makes it way more interesting
mooseracer said:
So the more people that watch the "greener" it becomes? Somehow negating all the emissions?
I went for a bike ride yesterday afternoon and now feel like an environmental terrorist - I should have watched the buildup instead.
I think you are reaching....
Why did you buy a bike that required energy and raw materials to manufacture and transport to you (most likely from half way round the world), when you could just walk?I went for a bike ride yesterday afternoon and now feel like an environmental terrorist - I should have watched the buildup instead.
I think you are reaching....
cc3 said:
Need to change rules so that you can’t use DRS every lap to stop the mid field DRS boring chain
We don't need any more rules changes yet. Let's get a season's worth of data first. Changing the DRS zones is more probable.Mind you, even with DRS and newer tyres, Sainz couldn't pass Max, so I'm not sure a mass change to reduce DRS use would help?
cc3 said:
Murghee said:
Another race where carlos can not get past he just does not have that killer instinct
He had a chance to win his first gp last year when gasly won but carlos just could not get passed...needs to take a late breaking risk
Decent race wish vsc would be scrapped the all out safety is what makes it way more interesting
Sainz too nice not up to it. If it had been Alonso, Hamilton, Russell, K Mag in that Ferrari they would have had a serious go at overtaking Verstappen He had a chance to win his first gp last year when gasly won but carlos just could not get passed...needs to take a late breaking risk
Decent race wish vsc would be scrapped the all out safety is what makes it way more interesting
For all the pre-race hype, he was a damp squib.
paulw123 said:
Kmag could have easily given Lewis a puncture at the start for the second time this season. Fortunately it only damaged his car this time. Man needs to learn where his front wing is.
It was a bit hot-headed. He ruined a good weekend for Haas by going for a first lap move that was never on. Alongside or not, there's no way around the outside there. vaud said:
cc3 said:
Need to change rules so that you can’t use DRS every lap to stop the mid field DRS boring chain
We don't need any more rules changes yet. Let's get a season's worth of data first. Changing the DRS zones is more probable.Mind you, even with DRS and newer tyres, Sainz couldn't pass Max, so I'm not sure a mass change to reduce DRS use would help?
Watching trains of 3-4 cars sit within 1sec for endless laps without overtaking, while the commentators desperately try to convince us that this is an amazing spectacle, is dire. That's what needs solving.
C70R said:
Alonso went over like an old lady on an icy pavement any time another driver pulled a move on him yesterday.
For all the pre-race hype, he was a damp squib.
Let's not be too harsh on the man.For all the pre-race hype, he was a damp squib.
Oh, I see, you wasn't.
I had him down as one to watch, but it turned out he was merely one to pass. He finished behind his teammate. Odd race for him, from tactics to racecraft.
I thought Leclerk , or CLC as some nominate him, could have done better as well, although, to be fair, the TV didn't tend to focus on him. I follow a live lap chart and he seemed a bit lacklustre, going quiet for a couple of laps here and there. It might have been that he was bringing down temperatures or boosting his battery; I don't know enough to say. I was hoping for the flourish of a fight with Russell towards the end.
The Mercs were surprisingly fleet. LH wasn't going to get near the battle for first, and there was no way Russell would be allowed to battle with him late in the race, so the only, albeit rather big, battle for the lead was all we had.
There was no way Sainz could have overtaken MV without risk to himself and I feel that discretion was felt to be the better option.
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