Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

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pheonix478

1,383 posts

40 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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asfault said:
That's not going to give you a fair answer is it? Thats like asking a mother if they think their son is a handsome lad.
My mum couldn't tell such a barefaced lie!

Castellet

172 posts

20 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Actually, it would have been a fair insight, as he’s a friend and has no vested interest.
Won’t now happen this weekend though, maybe in a couple of weeks, as he texted earlier to say he’s currently at the GP in Qatar.

eps

6,319 posts

271 months

Yazza54

18,691 posts

183 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Lol, fake news
Why hide the laptimes unless she was dogst slow? I don't buy it.

Sandpit Steve

10,349 posts

76 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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eps said:
It was on the Sky broadcast over the weekend.

I took it to mean that she was closer than expected to the lap times of the official test driver - who won F2 and sits in the simulator every week - rather than she was faster than him.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
It was on the Sky broadcast over the weekend.

I took it to mean that she was closer than expected to the lap times of the official test driver - who won F2 and sits in the simulator every week - rather than she was faster than him.
In three seasons of Formula W Jessica's best result was fifth. I am not buying that she was close to the times of the current Formula two champion.

If she was even remotely close why isn't she racing in Formula three to get enough points for a super licence?

Jamie Chadwich who won every season of Formula W didn't even score as many points as Mazapin when they raced in Formula three together.


Yazza54

18,691 posts

183 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Joey Deacon said:
Sandpit Steve said:
It was on the Sky broadcast over the weekend.

I took it to mean that she was closer than expected to the lap times of the official test driver - who won F2 and sits in the simulator every week - rather than she was faster than him.
In three seasons of Formula W Jessica's best result was fifth. I am not buying that she was close to the times of the current Formula two champion.

If she was even remotely close why isn't she racing in Formula three to get enough points for a super licence?

Jamie Chadwich who won every season of Formula W didn't even score as many points as Mazapin when they raced in Formula three together.
This.

It's Rosberg trying to be smart.

KaraK

13,200 posts

211 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Yazza54 said:
Lol, fake news
Why hide the laptimes unless she was dogst slow? I don't buy it.
While I have no idea how close Hawkins' times were to Drugovich (or not as the case may be) you can't read anything into them not publishing the lap times - simply because times generally aren't published for these sorts of tests. No-one was screaming blue murder that Piastri's times in his runs for Alpine weren't plastered everywhere.

520TORQUES

4,867 posts

17 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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KaraK said:
While I have no idea how close Hawkins' times were to Drugovich (or not as the case may be) you can't read anything into them not publishing the lap times - simply because times generally aren't published for these sorts of tests. No-one was screaming blue murder that Piastri's times in his runs for Alpine weren't plastered everywhere.
Piastri was F2 champion and has a well established record of winning at every level.

None of the current women racers are remotely comparable to him.

isaldiri

18,786 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Probably just means instead of expecting her to be multiple seconds off, she was merely a couple of seconds off......

Yazza54

18,691 posts

183 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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520TORQUES said:
KaraK said:
While I have no idea how close Hawkins' times were to Drugovich (or not as the case may be) you can't read anything into them not publishing the lap times - simply because times generally aren't published for these sorts of tests. No-one was screaming blue murder that Piastri's times in his runs for Alpine weren't plastered everywhere.
Piastri was F2 champion and has a well established record of winning at every level.

None of the current women racers are remotely comparable to him.
Was going to say the same thing. He's proven against drivers who matter. This is the exact reason why formula woman was a farcical waste of time.

KaraK

13,200 posts

211 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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520TORQUES said:
KaraK said:
While I have no idea how close Hawkins' times were to Drugovich (or not as the case may be) you can't read anything into them not publishing the lap times - simply because times generally aren't published for these sorts of tests. No-one was screaming blue murder that Piastri's times in his runs for Alpine weren't plastered everywhere.
Piastri was F2 champion and has a well established record of winning at every level.

None of the current women racers are remotely comparable to him.
Sigh..I'm not saying they are.. just pointing out that private tests by the teams rarely publish times, regardless of their gender. Piastri was just an example.. McLaren didn't publish times when Colton Herta tested for them at Portimao, or Palou, or O'Ward. It's just not standard practice to release the times - the only recent-ish example I can think of is Danny Ric in the Silverstone test, and even then all we got was an unnamed source telling Lawrence Barretto that it was "good enough for the front row".


520TORQUES

4,867 posts

17 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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KaraK said:
520TORQUES said:
KaraK said:
While I have no idea how close Hawkins' times were to Drugovich (or not as the case may be) you can't read anything into them not publishing the lap times - simply because times generally aren't published for these sorts of tests. No-one was screaming blue murder that Piastri's times in his runs for Alpine weren't plastered everywhere.
Piastri was F2 champion and has a well established record of winning at every level.

None of the current women racers are remotely comparable to him.
Sigh..I'm not saying they are.. just pointing out that private tests by the teams rarely publish times, regardless of their gender. Piastri was just an example.. McLaren didn't publish times when Colton Herta tested for them at Portimao, or Palou, or O'Ward. It's just not standard practice to release the times - the only recent-ish example I can think of is Danny Ric in the Silverstone test, and even then all we got was an unnamed source telling Lawrence Barretto that it was "good enough for the front row".
Isn't it obvious why i posted what i did?

PhilAsia

3,935 posts

77 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Peacockantony said:
Koln-RS said:
David Dicker on Jamie Chadwick

https://apple.news/ABuQJHknXRoi-2ozMsu0v4g
Has anybody ever seen David and that Rich Energy guy in the same room?

The media need to stop giving this guy and his company free advertising, it is pretty evident he hasn't got a clue. No wonder the FIA rejected Rodin's bid. What was Trevor thinking in entertaining this clown?

There is nothing stopping him putting her in a F3 or F2 car already, he is part owner of Rodin-Carlin after all. What is there to stop him wasting money on a F3 or F2 season in one of his cars? I mean he apparently already had the money to pay for an F1 team, a drive for Miss Chadwick will be far cheaper. Oh wait, deep down he knows she isn't remotely good enough but it is just coming out with wokely correct soundbites to get attention c'mere SHOEHORRRRRRNNNNN like Hamilton has been.

RB Will

9,678 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Just listening to the F1 podcast this week and the host said he spoke to Jess after the test and she had no problems driving the car and was as quick as the usual test driver. Didnt back it up with any evidence and may well have been generalising.

isaldiri

18,786 posts

170 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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RB Will said:
Just listening to the F1 podcast this week and the host said he spoke to Jess after the test and she had no problems driving the car and was as quick as the usual test driver. Didnt back it up with any evidence and may well have been generalising.
if Hawkins truly was as quick as the reigning F2 champion and AM test driver then surely there should be a queue to sign her up as a reserve driver at minimum.....

FourWheelDrift

88,715 posts

286 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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You mean like they are with Felipe Drugovich?

TikTak

1,587 posts

21 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Think that's the thing really. There are plenty of drivers who can do the job, or are quick enough over 5 laps on a closed circuit. F1 and most of the feeder/lower series are littered with 'fast on paper' F1 level, past or present, drivers.

Most are are looking for that next Seb/Max/Lewis/Fernando type driver or have experience/stability currently, a new drive doesn't give any of that, let alone bring sex into the question. Why introduce the unknown to the fray unless there is a need?

thegreenhell

15,678 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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isaldiri said:
if Hawkins truly was as quick as the reigning F2 champion and AM test driver then surely there should be a queue to sign her up as a reserve driver at minimum.....
She said in an interview that she was close to the benchmark times but didn't beat them. But even if she had, the main hurdle for her to go any further in F1 is that she doesn't have a single Super Licence point, so she can't even do an FP1 session. She would need to be racing in F2 as a minimum to progress. As it is she is limited to these sort of private tests where they can make up their own narrative without giving away any hard facts about lap times. It's a helluva trackday for her though.

Cold

15,272 posts

92 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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The F1 Academy dates have been announced. Next season will see them race at Saudi Arabia, Miami, Spain, Netherlands, Singapore, Qatar and Abu Dhabi.

A number of those venues might provoke an eyebrow raise due to their historic opinion of women. Perhaps that's the idea.