2018 Pre-Season Thread

2018 Pre-Season Thread

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Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

154 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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only 37 laps for McLaren - ran ok this morning but haven't emerged from lunch yet....

The Torro Rosso keeps pounding on round though....surely McLaren haven't just taken 3 years for the team here......

Edited by Vocal Minority on Tuesday 27th February 14:59

skinny

5,269 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Kubica has done fastest Williams time so far with 29 laps this afto at 1:21.495
Sirotkin did 52 laps this morning (1:21.822) and I think stroll did all day yesterday (1:22.142). But probably warmer conditions for Kubica

Europa1

10,923 posts

190 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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The Ferrari looks more orange than in previous years, based on the photos on the BBC website.

Searing technical insight from me there...

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

154 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Will Buxton has provided a theory on Honda.

He rightly points out that it did a similar milage to now in 2017 - its that last year was essentially a brand new year 1 - with a new architecture.

Makes sense

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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DS240 said:
Vocal Minority said:
Bottas is fastest by 3 seconds!!

No one stands a chance, what a write off of a season...
I wouldn’t treat day 2 times as a form guide for the year just yet!
The BBC's modus operandi tends to be:

If Ferrari are quickest in testing "it's too early to say whether their pace is genuine" [even when Toto says "oh $h!t, here comes trouble"].
If Mercedes are quickest in testing "hand them the trophy today, the rest might as well go home".

It's freezing cold, and more about systems checks than anything else. Just getting some mileage done and correlating real world aero data with simulator numbers is the order of the day. It might do everyone a favour if they turned the timing system off... biggrin

FourWheelDrift

88,775 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
only 37 laps for McLaren - ran ok this morning but haven't emerged from lunch yet....
He's been waiting due to supply problems - https://twitter.com/svandoorne/status/968502911406...

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

154 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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thought that was a reasonably quick response!

jules c

70 posts

226 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Any theories on why McLaren are running on the softer compound tyres?

HustleRussell

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24,795 posts

162 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Renault F1 team already considering 'strategic' 2018 grid penalties.

They've already announced that their engine will be no faster than it was at the end of 2017, and now it appears it's not meeting reliability targets either?

ajprice

27,871 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Snow isn't stopping Force india hehe


anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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jules c said:
Any theories on why McLaren are running on the softer compound tyres?
It's probably easier to get the softer compounds up to temperature, especially given the weather situation. Some variety is also good, the handling characteristics can change substantially between compounds.

HustleRussell said:
Renault F1 team already considering 'strategic' 2018 grid penalties.

They've already announced that their engine will be no faster than it was at the end of 2017, and now it appears it's not meeting reliability targets either?
It's a big ask to get through the year with less engines than they did last year (3 vs 5). Based on how much they had to turn them down at the end of last year just to ensure reliability, it's troubling that they appear to be openly admitting to have made little gains in either power or reliability over the winter.

Come the end of this year, a Honda power unit might be quite appealing to Red Bull, especially with Renault actively seeking to walk away from supplying them (possibly as payback for how outspoken Horner and Newey were a few years ago).

Vaud

50,922 posts

157 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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HustleRussell said:
Renault F1 team already considering 'strategic' 2018 grid penalties.

They've already announced that their engine will be no faster than it was at the end of 2017, and now it appears it's not meeting reliability targets either?
I doubt it is unique. With only three engines every team will be considering "what if" scenarios for each race so that they have put some deep thinking into the ramifications of a failure ahead of the season. Then when a failure they can bring up their model and reflect on the options they considered at the season start?

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Size of the intake tells you very little about the airflow, what goes on inside the ducts is what matters.

Dr Z

3,396 posts

173 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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I recall a Renault hybrid engine running like clockwork in a Caterham while getting into all sorts of trouble in a Red Bull, at the beginning of the hybrid era. I also recall that Red Bull winning a few races.

N0ddie

381 posts

167 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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Snowed last night in Barca and still is acording to Autosport. So very very unlikely to see any cars out today.

Once the helicopter can fly they say they'll go green. Madness.

Edited by N0ddie on Wednesday 28th February 08:07

CraigyMc

16,556 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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N0ddie said:
Snowed last night in Barca and still is acording to Autosport. So very very unlikely to see any cars out today.

Once the helicopter can fly they say they'll go green. Madness.
It's snowing now...

NRS

22,305 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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What colour are winter tyre sidewalls?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

154 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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the teams need to agree unanimously to move the session, and so far they have not - so the circuit will go as planned.

I think a few are sensing a marketing opportunity for photos

Vaud

50,922 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
the teams need to agree unanimously to move the session, and so far they have not - so the circuit will go as planned.

I think a few are sensing a marketing opportunity for photos
Friday and Saturday were not available as Williams and Ferrari have the circuit booked. Which leaves Sun or Mon going into the next test week - I guess it becomes a logistics challenge for people and new components?

pits

6,429 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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Get them out running, it'll be hilarious