Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

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Sandpit Steve

10,357 posts

76 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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RB Will said:
I don’t think Chad needs to worry about Brewer showing her up on the track next year. Think it could be safe to say her career is kept afloat by her being a model / influencer, which in fairness she does have the assets for
Yeah, not a good look really. If she’s going to be four seconds off the pace, it doesn’t matter how many Instagram followers she has, wrong advert for women in motorsport.

No problem with the glamourous photo shoots, most young ladies like to get dressed up and it’s great for marketing/sponsorship - but first of all, you’ve got to be able to drive the car!

Castellet

173 posts

20 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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RB Will said:
I don’t think Chad needs to worry about Brewer showing her up on the track next year. Think it could be safe to say her career is kept afloat by her being a model / influencer, which in fairness she does have the assets for
I had to search who Brewer was
https://www.the-sun.com/sport/8254711/lindsay-brew...

Spoke with my guy who knows about these things and he said she won’t be quick but she’ll be popular.
In the US you don’t get crap for coming last, you get praise for trying.
He sent me a screen shot of the test at Indianapolis last week, where, as said, she was 4 secs off, but presumably her first run in the car.

Meanwhile Brit Louis Foster was fastest and looking like the ‘favourite’ for next year. Chadwick was 0.6 behind him.

Yazza54

18,711 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Slow but hot. She has the credentials.

freedman

5,487 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Brewer was second to last of the full season runners in USF Pro 2000 this year,

280 points behind the championship winner, Rowe






RB Will

9,678 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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According to her WIKI she tried but wasn't even fast enough to qualify for W Series, never mind win it.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Yazza54 said:
Slow but hot. She has the credentials.
Absolutely, I still don't understand how these women get a drive, someone must be bank rolling them?

Makes you wonder if there was no super licence in F1 if one of them would get given a drive? I guess the 107% qualifying rule means they would never actually make it to a race.

Castellet

173 posts

20 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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I’d never heard of Lindsay Brewer until now, but I don’t see any real negatives.

Yes, she says she wants to be in IndyCar, the Americans’ equivalent of F1, which may be unrealistic, but she is generating attention to the topical subject of ‘women in motorsport’, which does have big media interest.

If she has 3m followers, then perhaps many of them will start following IndyNXT which is good for the Series and the other drivers who benefit from that extra visibility.


SpudLink

6,010 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Castellet said:
I’d never heard of Lindsay Brewer until now, but I don’t see any real negatives.

Yes, she says she wants to be in IndyCar, the Americans’ equivalent of F1, which may be unrealistic, but she is generating attention to the topical subject of ‘women in motorsport’, which does have big media interest.

If she has 3m followers, then perhaps many of them will start following IndyNXT which is good for the Series and the other drivers who benefit from that extra visibility.
There might be a short term boost in popularity if she brings her social media followers. But if she proves to be a few seconds off the back of the field, that could reflect badly on her, on IndyNXT, and possibly on the perception of women in motorsport.
Jamie Chadwick might not have what it takes be among the elite, but she isn't an embarrassment to herself or the sport.

Sandpit Steve

10,357 posts

76 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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SpudLink said:
There might be a short term boost in popularity if she brings her social media followers. But if she proves to be a few seconds off the back of the field, that could reflect badly on her, on IndyNXT, and possibly on the perception of women in motorsport.
Jamie Chadwick might not have what it takes be among the elite, but she isn't an embarrassment to herself or the sport.
yes Well said.

Koln-RS

3,885 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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I kind of see it like the Six Nations Rugby - bear with me.

As the father of daughters, even though we are not planning on racing, initiatives like WS, F1A, this ‘influencer’ - Brewer, etc, are reassuring efforts to get more girls interested and involved in motorsport. It’s certainly getting people talking - as this thread is proving.

I liken it to Italy participating in the Six Nations, some 20 years ago. Initially out of their depth and regularly finishing last.
An embarrassment ?

Not really. They are still a developing nation in the Rugby, broadening interest in the sport in Italy, inspiring new talent and quality to gradually emerge. Their first wins were huge steps forward, and whilst they are still perceived a ‘wooden spoon’ team, there has been notable progress. They are not far behind, and most people want their efforts to succeed.

These things take time, but necessary steps if we want any sport to be more inclusive.

MustangGT

11,700 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
SpudLink said:
There might be a short term boost in popularity if she brings her social media followers. But if she proves to be a few seconds off the back of the field, that could reflect badly on her, on IndyNXT, and possibly on the perception of women in motorsport.
Jamie Chadwick might not have what it takes be among the elite, but she isn't an embarrassment to herself or the sport.
yes Well said.
Fully agree. Brewer should go modelling or something, she does not appear to have what it takes to drive a car fast enough to race it.

Yazza54

18,711 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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MustangGT said:
Sandpit Steve said:
SpudLink said:
There might be a short term boost in popularity if she brings her social media followers. But if she proves to be a few seconds off the back of the field, that could reflect badly on her, on IndyNXT, and possibly on the perception of women in motorsport.
Jamie Chadwick might not have what it takes be among the elite, but she isn't an embarrassment to herself or the sport.
yes Well said.
Fully agree. Brewer should go modelling or something, she does not appear to have what it takes to drive a car fast enough to race it.
The sad thing is any criticism comes against a backlash along the lines of "guys are just threatened" or "you're anti feminist"

If it was just some chump of a bloke parading around that he was super fast when everyone knew full well that he wasn't just from looking at his past results, everyone, male and female alike, would be more than happy to slate him.

freedman

5,487 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Koln-RS said:
I kind of see it like the Six Nations Rugby - bear with me.

As the father of daughters, even though we are not planning on racing, initiatives like WS, F1A, this ‘influencer’ - Brewer, etc, are reassuring efforts to get more girls interested and involved in motorsport. It’s certainly getting people talking - as this thread is proving.

I liken it to Italy participating in the Six Nations, some 20 years ago. Initially out of their depth and regularly finishing last.
An embarrassment ?

Not really. They are still a developing nation in the Rugby, broadening interest in the sport in Italy, inspiring new talent and quality to gradually emerge. Their first wins were huge steps forward, and whilst they are still perceived a ‘wooden spoon’ team, there has been notable progress. They are not far behind, and most people want their efforts to succeed.

These things take time, but necessary steps if we want any sport to be more inclusive.
The sport is inclusive

There’s nothing stopping anyone taking part, bar ££

In Brewers case, she has the ££, but not the ability

Koln-RS

3,885 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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I wasn’t referring to the ‘taking part’.

My analogy was in reference to the comments that most current female drivers, Chadwick excepted, are going to struggle at the back.

That may be correct. But, as I understand it, the whole purpose of these initiatives is to generate higher level female talent from grass roots, hopefully in the next few years.

Roman Moroni

1,048 posts

125 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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freedman said:
Brewer was second to last of the full season runners in USF Pro 2000 this year,

280 points behind the championship winner, Rowe
Don't worry, she'll be part of the SKY F1 line up within a couple of years smile

df76

3,657 posts

280 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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News tonight that Garcia has a fully funded prema drive in FRECA for 2024. That’s going to be interesting, and seems that’s secured for winners of future seasons as well.

Sandpit Steve

10,357 posts

76 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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df76 said:
News tonight that Garcia has a fully funded prema drive in FRECA for 2024. That’s going to be interesting, and seems that’s secured for winners of future seasons as well.
That’s a reasonable place to go next, and a great prize to win. Good luck to Marta next season in Euro F3.

asfault

12,356 posts

181 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
asfault said:
Any female that makes it at this level beating all the males then gets to 20s and thinks about kids so racing career over
Jesus Christ…….rolleyes
Jesus christ what?
Statistically woman want kids. And ot changes their mindset to life and its risks or jobs.

Koln-RS

3,885 posts

214 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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thegreenhell

15,718 posts

221 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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I've heard that some women return to work after having a child these days. Even some top women athletes have done this, some of them reporting that they are physically stronger than before.