Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Author
Discussion

paulguitar

24,141 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
deadslow said:
You can die, but it is very very rare - you may actually be in greater danger crossing the road! Who can tell if LH is more or less brave - no-one, of course. The comparison is pointless. Those guys did something LH doesn't do.
And he and his colleagues do something they didn't do, and could not even imagine.




nickfrog

21,421 posts

219 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
deadslow said:
You can die, but it is very very rare - you may actually be in greater danger crossing the road! Who can tell if LH is more or less brave - no-one, of course. The comparison is pointless. Those guys did something LH doesn't do.
Because he doesn't have the opportunity to, which doesn't mean he wouldn't do it. No one can tell, as you say.

deadslow

8,062 posts

225 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
paulguitar said:
deadslow said:
You can die, but it is very very rare - you may actually be in greater danger crossing the road! Who can tell if LH is more or less brave - no-one, of course. The comparison is pointless. Those guys did something LH doesn't do.
And he and his colleagues do something they didn't do, and could not even imagine.
agreed, but managing various engine maps and working in a simulator seems easier than ending up in a fireball.

paulguitar

24,141 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
deadslow said:
agreed, but managing various engine maps and working in a simulator seems easier than ending up in a fireball.
I was thinking more about dealing with 6.5g.

It's a shame you seem to have so little respect for the current drivers.



nickfrog

21,421 posts

219 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
paulguitar said:
I was thinking more about dealing with 6.5g.

It's a shame you seem to have so little respect for the current drivers.
It's quite bizarre. I am actually amazed by their cognitive bandwidth. They have to drive AND adjust a multitude of settings AND cope with huge lateral acceleration. In fact, I am not sure the old guard would have coped with that much.

budgie smuggler

5,427 posts

161 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
vaud said:


Apols if a repost but a remarkable drive.
Love that! Brilliant commentator too "I don't know what he's signalling, answers on a postcard please" <driver crashes> "ah perhaps that's what he signalled"

Bo_apex

2,628 posts

220 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
nickfrog said:
paulguitar said:
I was thinking more about dealing with 6.5g.

It's a shame you seem to have so little respect for the current drivers.
It's quite bizarre. I am actually amazed by their cognitive bandwidth. They have to drive AND adjust a multitude of settings AND cope with huge lateral acceleration. In fact, I am not sure the old guard would have coped with that much.
Another perspective; How many current drivers know how to balance three pedals, a stick and steering while getting a face full of stones kicked up from the car in front ?

And would they park up the car if they could smell petrol ?







Muzzer79

10,301 posts

189 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
Bo_apex said:
nickfrog said:
paulguitar said:
I was thinking more about dealing with 6.5g.

It's a shame you seem to have so little respect for the current drivers.
It's quite bizarre. I am actually amazed by their cognitive bandwidth. They have to drive AND adjust a multitude of settings AND cope with huge lateral acceleration. In fact, I am not sure the old guard would have coped with that much.
Another perspective; How many current drivers know how to balance three pedals, a stick and steering while getting a face full of stones kicked up from the car in front ?

And would they park up the car if they could smell petrol ?
I think it's fairly safe to say that a driver from the 50s/60s would look at a modern F1 car, be flummoxed by the modern tech and admire the modern driver's bravery and skill to drive it fast.

Just as a driver from the 2020's would look at an old F1 car, be flummoxed by the old tech and admire the 50s/60s driver's bravery and skill to drive it fast.

Comparing the two is pointless. Old F1 cars are require bravery and skill. So do modern ones.

Neither era had it or has it easy.


M5-911

1,373 posts

47 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
Bo_apex said:
Another perspective; How many current drivers know how to balance three pedals, a stick and steering while getting a face full of stones kicked up from the car in front ?

And would they park up the car if they could smell petrol ?
They are racing drivers, they will do anything to win. Doesn't matter the era they compete or they have competed in.




Edited by M5-911 on Friday 9th October 14:42

Bo_apex

2,628 posts

220 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
M5-911 said:
Bo_apex said:
Another perspective; How many current drivers know how to balance three pedals, a stick and steering while getting a face full of stones kicked up from the car in front ?

And would they park up the car if they could smell petrol ?
They are racing drivers, they will do anything to win. Doesn't matter the era they compete or they have competed in.




Edited by M5-911 on Friday 9th October 14:42
The other main difference is drivers were out on their own and improvisation ability was important.
Today's drivers rely on instructions from engineers on radio.
Verstappen is refereshing as he often says NO, does it his own way and still bags a result.

heebeegeetee

28,922 posts

250 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
Bo_apex said:
The other main difference is drivers were out on their own and improvisation ability was important.
Today's drivers rely on instructions from engineers on radio.
Verstappen is refereshing as he often says NO, does it his own way and still bags a result.
He certainly has been doing that this year. I dunno about refreshing though, haven't we been listening to Lewis doing similar for about a decade now? Since China 2007 perhaps? smile

M5-911

1,373 posts

47 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
heebeegeetee said:
He certainly has been doing that this year. I dunno about refreshing though, haven't we been listening to Lewis doing similar for about a decade now? Since China 2007 perhaps? smile
This year alone, Hamilton refused to pit twice...

angrymoby

2,626 posts

180 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
Muzzer79 said:
Just as a driver from the 2020's would look at an old F1 car, be flummoxed by the old tech and admire the 50s/60s driver's bravery and skill to drive it fast.
not sure that's true, as karts/ junior formula are pretty basic still

M5-911

1,373 posts

47 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
angrymoby said:
not sure that's true, as karts/ junior formula are pretty basic still
And quicker than 50s /60s f1.

ChocolateFrog

26,072 posts

175 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
I've realised who Hamilton reminds me of.

Donald Trump

Cant help but hear his "best team in the world" statement today when asked about the team mate with Covid in anything other than Trumps voice.

Probably works well for his greatest fans in the world declarations too.


paulguitar

24,141 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
ChocolateFrog said:
I've realised who Hamilton reminds me of.

Donald Trump
redcard

deadslow

8,062 posts

225 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
paulguitar said:
deadslow said:
agreed, but managing various engine maps and working in a simulator seems easier than ending up in a fireball.
I was thinking more about dealing with 6.5g.

It's a shame you seem to have so little respect for the current drivers.
sorry, chap but get a fkin grip and grow up with all that 'its a shame...'. Just dry your eyes.

paulguitar

24,141 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
deadslow said:
sorry, chap but get a fkin grip and grow up with all that 'its a shame...'. Just dry your eyes.
Dry my eyes? What are you, nine?




nickfrog

21,421 posts

219 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
deadslow said:
sorry, chap but get a fkin grip and grow up with all that 'its a shame...'. Just dry your eyes.
Does growing up mean using invective to convey an opinion?

paulguitar

24,141 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2020
quotequote all
Disappointing, it had been good-natured all afternoon, and then, completely out of nowhere, this lunacy...

Coronavirus frustration? Afternoon beers? Free practice withdrawal confused