Official 2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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EmailAddress said:
I wish they'd go back to Brands one final time.
It wouldn't work. Too bumpy, too narrow, too small etc etc.
But by fk, Quali would be epic
+1 for Brands.It wouldn't work. Too bumpy, too narrow, too small etc etc.
But by fk, Quali would be epic
The biggest problem is the current lardy cars.
The circuit is far more challenging than Silverstone and better for spectators, but the politics probably won't let it happen.
Sandpit Steve said:
More evidence of the Americans going totally mad over the weekend.
One of the TV networks sent a comedian dressed up as a driver - and he got interviews with a whole load of F1 drivers and TPs, as well as crashing the VIP party and getting a Hot Lap.
They do some really good stuff with Guillermo on the Kimmel show, send him to the Oscars and lots of other events/skits they do, all pre arranged and scripted (as you well know) but nice try. One of the TV networks sent a comedian dressed up as a driver - and he got interviews with a whole load of F1 drivers and TPs, as well as crashing the VIP party and getting a Hot Lap.
EmailAddress said:
BunkMoreland said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Max can't race.
He either crashes into the other driver or forces them off the track.
He will have records but doesn't deserve to be put in the same breath as Schumi or Alonso or senna
I agree he can't race wheel to wheel. But ironically he is in the same breath as Michael and Ayrton in the "I'm putting my car there and if you dont avoid me, we'll crash"He either crashes into the other driver or forces them off the track.
He will have records but doesn't deserve to be put in the same breath as Schumi or Alonso or senna
Theres a video on YT of Hamilton saying he "treats Max differently when racing wheel to wheel" and then they ask Seb the same question and he just agrees with Lewis. Thats telling.
I can genuinely imagine a moment for Max before the end of his career, where he'll literally T bone his title competitor to win the title. I simply cant think of any champ from the last 30 years (aside from the aforementioned) that would do that.
Put them all in an FW11 and see what happens.
RichB said:
Bo_apex said:
Some are simply exploiting the amazing safety of today's missiles with Max exploiting the most. Put them all in an FW11 and see what happens.
I imagine Alonso and Hamilton would do rather well. They have had some amazing side by side battles and not touched. paulguitar said:
RichB said:
Bo_apex said:
Some are simply exploiting the amazing safety of today's missiles with Max exploiting the most. Put them all in an FW11 and see what happens.
I imagine Alonso and Hamilton would do rather well. They have had some amazing side by side battles and not touched. - ask Nico Rosberg and George Russell for further details on Hamilton donks
RichB said:
Bo_apex said:
Some are simply exploiting the amazing safety of today's missiles with Max exploiting the most. Put them all in an FW11 and see what happens.
I imagine Alonso and Hamilton would do rather well. They have had some amazing side by side battles and not touched. Have to say overall I was really pleasantly surprised with the Las Vegas race.
I'd woken up early strongly suspecting that I'd regret doing so, but I thought it was one of the most entertaining races of the year.
It was a reminder, if one were needed, that having a fight for the lead is a very significant part of what makes a race interesting/exciting.
I'd woken up early strongly suspecting that I'd regret doing so, but I thought it was one of the most entertaining races of the year.
It was a reminder, if one were needed, that having a fight for the lead is a very significant part of what makes a race interesting/exciting.
isaldiri said:
RichB said:
Bo_apex said:
Some are simply exploiting the amazing safety of today's missiles with Max exploiting the most. Put them all in an FW11 and see what happens.
I imagine Alonso and Hamilton would do rather well. They have had some amazing side by side battles and not touched. isaldiri said:
Put both of them in a bitter championship battle and it seems rather unlikely that they would still battle it out on track quite as cleanly if it was wheel to wheel....
If only the two of them had been direct rivals in equal equipment in a bitter championship battle before, eh?Henson said:
isaldiri said:
Put both of them in a bitter championship battle and it seems rather unlikely that they would still battle it out on track quite as cleanly if it was wheel to wheel....
If only the two of them had been direct rivals in equal equipment in a bitter championship battle before, eh?If only...
Henson said:
isaldiri said:
Put both of them in a bitter championship battle and it seems rather unlikely that they would still battle it out on track quite as cleanly if it was wheel to wheel....
If only the two of them had been direct rivals in equal equipment in a bitter championship battle before, eh?paulguitar said:
Alonso and Hamilton have always raced hard but fair on the circuit. Even in 2007, when things got very heated, I don't think they ever took each other out on track, did they?
It's quite a long time ago obviously but I don't quite recall they were actually wheel to wheel very much then? Especially once things started getting somewhat frosty at Mclaren and quite unlike Rosberg/Hamilton in 2016 or Verstappen/Hamilton in 2021. Even Vettel/Hamilton in 2018 tbh. It seemed more like one would get a stronger run in the race and build a good enough lead that the other wouldn't be quite able to get back on even terms after.
isaldiri said:
paulguitar said:
Alonso and Hamilton have always raced hard but fair on the circuit. Even in 2007, when things got very heated, I don't think they ever took each other out on track, did they?
It's quite a long time ago obviously but I don't quite recall they were actually wheel to wheel very much then? Especially once things started getting somewhat frosty at Mclaren and quite unlike Rosberg/Hamilton in 2016 or Verstappen/Hamilton in 2021. Even Vettel/Hamilton in 2018 tbh. It seemed more like one would get a stronger run in the race and build a good enough lead that the other wouldn't be quite able to get back on even terms after.
paulguitar said:
They did run close together in a few races, iirc. There was one (either Canada or USA, I think) where Fernando veered across towards the pit wall to make a point to the team because Hamilton was in front and they did not move him out of the way. I don't think they ever clashed on track physically though.
Belgium is the one that comes to mind as Alonso shoved Hamilton off the track pretty much at the start and just kept his foot stuck in up eau rouge and kept the position... but as I said, I don't quite recall a lot of argy bargy where the 2 were in close contact over a couple of laps the way some of the other more recent championship battles turned out.isaldiri said:
paulguitar said:
They did run close together in a few races, iirc. There was one (either Canada or USA, I think) where Fernando veered across towards the pit wall to make a point to the team because Hamilton was in front and they did not move him out of the way. I don't think they ever clashed on track physically though.
Belgium is the one that comes to mind as Alonso shoved Hamilton off the track pretty much at the start and just kept his foot stuck in up eau rouge and kept the position... but as I said, I don't quite recall a lot of argy bargy where the 2 were in close contact over a couple of laps the way some of the other more recent championship battles turned out.520TORQUES said:
Next years ticket sales will tell you if this race works from a spectator interest perspective.
Liberty have a job to do to stop FP1/2 turning into a long term stshow. The initial signs are not good, comments and offers to those affected have been very poor.
Bet they make it a Sprint Race next year...Liberty have a job to do to stop FP1/2 turning into a long term stshow. The initial signs are not good, comments and offers to those affected have been very poor.
paulguitar said:
isaldiri said:
paulguitar said:
Alonso and Hamilton have always raced hard but fair on the circuit. Even in 2007, when things got very heated, I don't think they ever took each other out on track, did they?
It's quite a long time ago obviously but I don't quite recall they were actually wheel to wheel very much then? Especially once things started getting somewhat frosty at Mclaren and quite unlike Rosberg/Hamilton in 2016 or Verstappen/Hamilton in 2021. Even Vettel/Hamilton in 2018 tbh. It seemed more like one would get a stronger run in the race and build a good enough lead that the other wouldn't be quite able to get back on even terms after.
Not that Hamilton was going to be able to pass, but he made a point.
paulguitar said:
isaldiri said:
RichB said:
Bo_apex said:
Some are simply exploiting the amazing safety of today's missiles with Max exploiting the most. Put them all in an FW11 and see what happens.
I imagine Alonso and Hamilton would do rather well. They have had some amazing side by side battles and not touched. Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff