The Official F1 2023 silly season *contains speculation*
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Mick takes too long to learn a car and an F1 car changes pretty much every season and then all through the year..... he's proved that all the way through his junior career. He's also cost Haas a lot of money in rebuilds of the car after some sizeable shunts, and he's been out-scored by his much senior team mate. If he was the real deal, he would be way ahead of Magnuson.
He'd do well as a reserve driver, but if I was him i'd look to get into WEC with Ferrari or someone.
Hulkenburg is a safe pair of hands. His experience will mean the car won't end up in the wall as much (hopefully), breaking parts that have just been put on, and will allow Haas to develop the car both financially and technically and materially by not breaking stuff all the time.
Mick is not his Dad or even his Uncle, unfortunately for him!
He'd do well as a reserve driver, but if I was him i'd look to get into WEC with Ferrari or someone.
Hulkenburg is a safe pair of hands. His experience will mean the car won't end up in the wall as much (hopefully), breaking parts that have just been put on, and will allow Haas to develop the car both financially and technically and materially by not breaking stuff all the time.
Mick is not his Dad or even his Uncle, unfortunately for him!
te and fancies a few of the $.I think with KMag coming back this year, and now Hulk, plus De Vries suddenly being in demand after being overlooked by F1 for three years since winning F2, shows that there isn't the new talent coming through at the moment. I think we were spoiled by the F2 class of 2018, and now people expect that level of talent every year, but nobody has really come in and managed to stick around since then. It's just a bunch of guys taking multiple years to achieve mediocrity, which is why we had McLaren and Alpine publicly fighting over someone who's never even raced in F1 when he looks like be might be the next big thing. Only time will tell, but there aren't many other viable options around right now.
carl_w said:
the-norseman said:
1&1 sponsorship included must have a German driver.
If this is true I can't think of anyone else who qualifies Fundoreen said:
Once again people assume a small team with limited resources should be a test lab for drivers
Once again - if the small teams aren’t a place to bed in new and inexperienced drivers…..where is the place? Ferrari aren’t going to take a rookie out of F2.
I’m not surprised that Schumacher has been dropped but I am surprised they have taken Hulkenburg, who’s ship I thought had sailed.
I still think they missed out by not taking Callum Ilott for 2021.
Perhaps Gene Haas just had one repair bill too many and prioritised safe, if unspectacular hands.
PhilAsia said:
Mick takes too long to get up to speed...he is better suited to endurance imo.
Just seen super7 has pretty much summarised my thoughts.Too slow to unlock performance in qualy.
Too slow to unlock performance in the race
Too many incidents costing the team
Once he has unlocked the performance he is relatively quick and endurance would be more suitable. Haas need someone more steady.
Muzzer79 said:
Once again - if the small teams aren’t a place to bed in new and inexperienced drivers…..where is the place?
Ferrari aren’t going to take a rookie out of F2.
I’m not surprised that Schumacher has been dropped but I am surprised they have taken Hulkenburg, who’s ship I thought had sailed.
I still think they missed out by not taking Callum Ilott for 2021.
Perhaps Gene Haas just had one repair bill too many and prioritised safe, if unspectacular hands.
He’s also got some good sponsorship for next year, so can afford to recruit a driver on merit, rather than on money. Ferrari aren’t going to take a rookie out of F2.
I’m not surprised that Schumacher has been dropped but I am surprised they have taken Hulkenburg, who’s ship I thought had sailed.
I still think they missed out by not taking Callum Ilott for 2021.
Perhaps Gene Haas just had one repair bill too many and prioritised safe, if unspectacular hands.
The damage bill coming from the cost cap, also means that a more reliable driver allows for more development cash, and an experienced driver is a better resource for the development work.
At a guess is Shumi jr knew Vettel was retiring and they cooked up a plan for him to slot in at Aston. Then Alonso stepped in the way.
I remember vettel talking him up lots in the season and throwing his name about after he announced he was fed up being crashed into
by wildchild stroll.
Haas though he's not that commited to us really....
I remember vettel talking him up lots in the season and throwing his name about after he announced he was fed up being crashed into
by wildchild stroll.
Haas though he's not that commited to us really....
Largechris said:
Finlandese said:
Ref. Hulkenberg: If the correct answer is a journeyman who hasn´t had a full time drive since 2019, the system is broken.
He's actually a really good driver and I will be having some large wagers on him next season.MissChief said:
Mick to drive Ferrari’s LM car? Would generate a lot of interest, having the Schumacher name on a Ferrari again.
Nostalgic and I actually think that Mick is more suited to endurance than F1But he’ll want to stay close to F1 for at least another year to see if there’s an avenue back in.
MissChief said:
RiseUp said:
Not a fan of the Haas announcement. Hulk will do what Hulk does and provide nothing new to the team.
A lot less crashes, a much smaller bodywork and parts replacement bill and, hopefully, more consistency and points finishes.If Haas still have a reasonable car next year, they need a driver who can deliver consistenly.
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