Official 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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AJB88 said:
Muzzer79 said:
AJB88 said:
Most people could win the WDC in that Mercedes, apart from Bottas.
That depends on who is in the other Mercedes.....
Yeh there is that, for arguments sake lets say Bottas.
If you put a Bottas in both Mercedes, it is quite likely that Bottas could win the WDC?

suffolk009

5,486 posts

166 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Deesee said:
Seb went for a Bond themed name for his car, Honey Ryder...
Pussy Galore would have been difficult for non-Bond fans.

cuprabob

14,753 posts

215 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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HustleRussell said:
If you put a Bottas in both Mercedes, it is quite likely that Bottas could win the WDC?
Bottas V1.0 versus Bottas V2.0 smile

HighwayStar

4,341 posts

145 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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AJB88 said:
Piginapoke said:
Ricciardo is a modern day Button- lacking the last 10th in qualifying but great in the race. Like Button, he could be a WDC in the right car.
Most people could win the WDC in that Mercedes, apart from Bottas.
Most people? Let’s presume you actually meant most F1 drivers. If they had the focus, drive, determinate, were able to maintain that consistency across a whole season and handle the pressure then of course. To say most could do win the Mercedes I think underestimates the size of the task. Despite what Russell achieve in his one race, it is really more than just getting in the car and driving round.

suffolk009

5,486 posts

166 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Deesee said:
I prefer the Bentley in the books..
I prefer the Esprit in Spy Who Loved Me.

Deesee

8,490 posts

84 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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suffolk009 said:
Deesee said:
Seb went for a Bond themed name for his car, Honey Ryder...
Pussy Galore would have been difficult for non-Bond fans.
Maybe he’s doing them in chronological order (films), next yr Tatiana, then Pussy...

Well have to wait a while for Holly Goodhead.

Deesee

8,490 posts

84 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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suffolk009 said:
Deesee said:
I prefer the Bentley in the books..
I prefer the Esprit in Spy Who Loved Me.
Very cool car!

Had a matchbox model of that used as a bath toy..

StevieBee

12,967 posts

256 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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suffolk009 said:
Deesee said:
I prefer the Bentley in the books..
I prefer the Esprit in Spy Who Loved Me.
Not the Z3 or 7-Series in Goldeneye then?

Leithen

11,026 posts

268 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Deesee said:
Seb went for a Bond themed name for his car, Honey Ryder...
Missed opportunity to name it Felicity Shagwell, with which he would retrieve his lost mojo....

kiseca

9,339 posts

220 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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cuprabob said:
HustleRussell said:
If you put a Bottas in both Mercedes, it is quite likely that Bottas could win the WDC?
Bottas V1.0 versus Bottas V2.0 smile
If you took Hamilton out of F1 completely, and put someone like Taki Inoue (the cartoon version, I'm sure he's actually a much better driver than he gives himself credit for even compared to other professionals) in the other Merc to keep the car out of the way, then to date Bottas would be a double world champion from his four attempts, Seb would have 6 titles to his credit.

Other than that, it's wild speculation, but giving Bottas's 50% success rate of beating everyone but his team mate so far, considering Max wasn't far off beating him last year and how much closer the Red Bulls look in the extremely brief comparison we've had this year, I wouldn't put money on Bottas being the 2020 world champion. I'd probably back Max.

Getting back to reality, with Hamilton in the Merc seat, I'm still quite doubtful that he's all set for his 8th title. He's getting on, he's had 7, we don't know if Covid had any lingering effects still - clearly he was hurting in that last race but that is more likely just getting back to fitness... and Max is hungry, fast, a proven winner and while not as consistent as Lewis, he's more consistent than he was. And the Red Bull looks more competitive. So I'm 50/50 and I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be Max's year.

When Ricciardo joined Renault it took him 4 or 5 races to get up to speed in the car - Hulk had the measure of him at first but once he got comfortable - or his team had learnt how to adjust the car to his strengths - he got the upper hand. Hence it's possible that pattern will repeat this year, and unless he's miles off of Norris, I wouldn't read too much into his performance in the first quarter or even first half of this season.

When Schumacher came back, at his age and with his time away, I thought there's no way a driver is making a successful comeback under those conditions, but if anyone can, it's Schumacher. Well, he didn't really make it happen, though I think the lack of testing and the joke tyres of the time both undermined two of his biggest strengths - his ability to run consistent laps in the race at qualifying pace (which would now just melt his tyres) and his work ethic and commitment to testing.

I feel similar about Alonso. He's been away for a long time, he's not as old as Schumi was (or maybe I'm wrong) but he's definitely old enough to be a retired successful F1 driver, and he's entering a so-so car with limited opportunities for development. I don't think many drivers could do this and get back on their old pace, but if anyone can, it's Alonso.... and he doesn't have such big changes in the sport to deal with as Schumacher had to.


Edited by kiseca on Friday 26th March 11:02

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Somewhere along the way, I had missed that all practice sessions shortened to 1 hour this year.

That should make it a little more frenetic as teams try and compress their "standard" runs into a shorter period.

Man-At-Arms

5,912 posts

180 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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JonChalk said:
Somewhere along the way, I had missed that all practice sessions shortened to 1 hour this year.

That should make it a little more frenetic as teams try and compress their "standard" runs into a shorter period.
Think it was decided it the last few weeks of 2020.

Mainly for TV scheduling, so they can work around the 1hr timeslots

Big Nanas

1,410 posts

85 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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No Crofty? I can’t remember the last time he missed a session.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Big Nanas said:
No Crofty? I can’t remember the last time he missed a session.
He doesn't always sinks so low as to do the menial practice sessions - he has underlings for that when he can't be bothered to get out of bed.

Nonetheless, it is an uplifting start to the season.

Man-At-Arms

5,912 posts

180 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Big Nanas said:
No Crofty? I can’t remember the last time he missed a session.
but Chandok & Button
great knowledge

Man-At-Arms

5,912 posts

180 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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MartG said:
Big Nanas said:
No Crofty? I can’t remember the last time he missed a session.
He retired last year
Sure you’re not thinking of Ben Edwards on C4

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Mercedes sending a message there. Straight out on softs and P1-2.

HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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F20CN16 said:
Mercedes sending a message there. Straight out on softs and P1-2.
Four seconds off the pace

SpudLink

5,959 posts

193 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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This morning I relented on my determination not to get a NowTV pass this year. (I’m a weak man.)

Glad there’s no Croft on the comentry this morning.

Brilliant gesture from Williams, putting the Murray Walker quote in the halo.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Pinkham in the comms box, oh dear.