Driver(s) of the year

Driver(s) of the year

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oyster

12,644 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Best in qualifying: Vettel
Best in race: Vettel
Most improved: Grosjean
Worst in qualifying: Raikkonen
Worst in race: Webber
Least improved: Maldonado
Best personality: Grosjean
Worst personality: DiResta, Maldonado tied

deadslow

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8,033 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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oyster said:
Worst personality: DiResta, Maldonado tied
harsh hehe

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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oyster said:
Worst in qualifying: Raikkonen
How does that work then, when he is 11-6 up against Grosjean?
Webber, Gutierrez, Vergne and Chilton all have shocking records against their team mates.

I also think it is unfair to put DiResta in the same category as Maldonado..... Paul is a bit of a winger but he isn't at Maldonado's level of ttishness.

suffolk009

5,487 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Norfolkit said:
Chilton 2/10 - Impeccable no claims bonus, not much else to say.
Nicely put.

You know they'll all go on and on and on about him being the only rookie to finish every race.

entropy

5,470 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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VolvoT5 said:
I also think it is unfair to put DiResta in the same category as Maldonado..... Paul is a bit of a winger but he isn't at Maldonado's level of ttishness.
The problem with PDR is that everytime you look at him he looks like a grumpy sod. Maybe he needs a Roscoe in his life as well as a bangable missus.

entropy

5,470 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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VolvoT5 said:
I also think it is unfair to put DiResta in the same category as Maldonado..... Paul is a bit of a winger but he isn't at Maldonado's level of ttishness.
The problem with PDR is that he's the Nigel Mansell of our times: everytime you look at him and hear him speak like a grumpy sod. Maybe he needs a Roscoe in his life as well as a bangable missus.

entropy

5,470 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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VolvoT5 said:
I also think it is unfair to put DiResta in the same category as Maldonado..... Paul is a bit of a winger but he isn't at Maldonado's level of ttishness.
The problem with PDR is that he's the Nigel Mansell of our times: everytime you look at him and hear him speak like a grumpy sod. Maybe he needs a Roscoe in his life as well as a bangable missus.

Vaud

50,770 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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oyster said:
Best in qualifying: Vettel
Best in race: Vettel
Most improved: Grosjean
Worst in qualifying: Button
Worst in race: Webber
Least improved: Maldonado
Best personality: Massa
Worst personality: DiResta, Maldonado tied
I've swapped Kimi for Button for the simple stat:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2013-f1-stat...
Button, with his experience in the car really should have been a bit further ahead of Perez. Not a lot, because Perez is quick, but a bit more.

And personality... Massa, for his dignity since 2008 and through a tough season. Oh and out qualifying Alonso quite a lot.

LiamM45

1,035 posts

181 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Vaud said:
I've swapped Kimi for Button for the simple stat:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2013-f1-stat...
Button, with his experience in the car really should have been a bit further ahead of Perez. Not a lot, because Perez is quick, but a bit more.

And personality... Massa, for his dignity since 2008 and through a tough season. Oh and out qualifying Alonso quite a lot.
I think in the latter half of the season Perez and Massa have looked better than their team mates. Alonso looks like he can't be bothered and Button just has excuse after excuse, whilst Perez seems to be getting faster and faster.

I would love to see Massa on the podium in Brazil! What a finale that would be to his Ferrari career.

Vaud

50,770 posts

156 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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LiamM45 said:
I think in the latter half of the season Perez and Massa have looked better than their team mates. Alonso looks like he can't be bothered and Button just has excuse after excuse, whilst Perez seems to be getting faster and faster.

I would love to see Massa on the podium in Brazil! What a finale that would be to his Ferrari career.
Agreed. His dignity on the podium and press conference in 2008 at his home race was remarkable - and I think one of the reasons Ferrari stuck by him. A true racer. Yes, affected by the accident at Hungary, but a great man and fiercely loyal. Like many that treated Maranello well, I think he will always be welcome there for decades ahead.

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Got to say Alonso has made the most of a car that wasn't really up to the job.

I can't help thinking Perez has been a bit unlucky to lose his McLaren drive after just one season. Ok he didn't exactly set the world on fire but he's kept pace with Button and got something out of a poor car.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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LiamM45 said:
I think in the latter half of the season Perez and Massa have looked better than their team mates. Alonso looks like he can't be bothered and Button just has excuse after excuse, whilst Perez seems to be getting faster and faster.

I would love to see Massa on the podium in Brazil! What a finale that would be to his Ferrari career.
I just cannot understand that line of thinking for Massa/Alonso. Yes he may have out-qualified Alonso a few times but point scoring since Belgium has Alonso on 96 vs Massa's 45. Alonso has outscored him by more than double in the 2nd half of the season.

McClure

2,173 posts

147 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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AJS- said:
I can't help thinking Perez has been a bit unlucky to lose his McLaren drive after just one season. Ok he didn't exactly set the world on fire but he's kept pace with Button and got something out of a poor car.
yes

Sorry to bring this back to the tyres again, but at the moment drivers are more "car-limited" than ever. A driver simply cannot wring a car's neck during a race and drag it to a better position than it deserves. So expecting Perez to put in a "star drive" was never going to happen. There's not one example this year of a driver "out-performing" the car.

P-Jay

10,599 posts

192 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Has to be Vettel, where other drivers have shined at some races and faltered at others he's be consistently brilliant at every race I can remember, even when he hasn't won, he's been right up there, but sod him, I just don't like him (winning anyway).

But my driver of the year is Grosjean, certainly the most improved, he's amazed when most people expect him to disappoint and out shined the great Kimi.

coogy

955 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Grosjean - utter transformation from 2012 and a likeable sort of chap too.