Newey, stay or go?

Newey, stay or go?

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bubney72

1,107 posts

155 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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I'd like to know where Aldo Costa is going, the designer of this years fantastic Mercedes, and many championship winning Ferrari's of the past.

revrange

1,182 posts

186 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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bubney72 said:
I'd like to know where Aldo Costa is going, the designer of this years fantastic Mercedes, and many championship winning Ferrari's of the past.
He isn't leaving Merc is he? Bob Bell is leaving but Costa I haven't seen anything to say he is going?

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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revrange said:
He isn't leaving Merc is he? Bob Bell is leaving but Costa I haven't seen anything to say he is going?
news to me too. Costa works well in a cohesive team, not so well when he's leading it. Maybe Byrne is making a full time comeback and reuniting the dream team?

Adrian W

14,045 posts

230 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Everyone has their price.

£20 million, £50 million, £100 million

Megaflow

9,496 posts

227 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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I can see him going. Ferrari are desperate, if they bend to his demands of total technical freedom, he could very well go.

Look at it from his perspective:
1) Total technical freedom
2) Massive pay cheque
3) Returns Ferrari to winning ways

It would take a strong man to turn it down, on the condition they offer him the freedom he will want.

Vanya

2,058 posts

246 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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The manner in which he answered the question gave me the sense his plan is already firmly in place.

What that is I don't know, you'll have to ask him.


Durzel

12,311 posts

170 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Megaflow said:
I can see him going. Ferrari are desperate, if they bend to his demands of total technical freedom, he could very well go.

Look at it from his perspective:
1) Total technical freedom
2) Massive pay cheque
3) Returns Ferrari to winning ways

It would take a strong man to turn it down, on the condition they offer him the freedom he will want.
This.

It would not surprise me if Ferrari built him his own design studio or whatever else he needs in the UK, and/or relocates significant assets from Maranello. When you're talking about £millions involved in F1 - building facilities is nothing.

They have to do something, what they're currently doing isn't working, including being remote from Motorsport Valley.

Edited by Durzel on Monday 12th May 13:37

StevieBee

13,002 posts

257 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Does Newey not own a bit of RBR? Not that in the world of contracts and money does this count for anything but I harbour the belief that Red Bull will eventually bail out of F1 and sell the team on (Porsche??) at which point, those who own a bit of it will stand to see a very nice pay day.

One scenario that might play out is a neat swap; Vettel and Newey in exchange for Alonso and a nice bit of Santander wedge.


rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Gaz. said:
Just what the media spoon feed the fans time and again, as most of the fans don't have any other contact with F1 than via the media (and things like that never seem to be corrected either) then those articles are taken at face value. I'd be more than happy for you to correct both statements smile
if he'd left Williams because they wouldn't offer him shares, he certainly didn't receive that at McLaren...so that wasn't the driver for him leaving them. And RD was happy about providing him with a sabbatical to design an Americas Cup yacht too, so once again, not a driver for him leaving McLaren.

At an event at the Design Museum several years ago, he told me that it was the excitement of being in at the birth of an F1 eam with proper funding (unlike Leyton House) that lured him to Red Bull...plus Horner's promise that he'd sweet talk RD into allowing his beloved drawing board to find its way out of the back door smile

noell35

3,172 posts

150 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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As an engineer you would think he would prefer to work for a team that has control over both the engine and body. He seems to loathe the compromises he has to make for the Renault engine and while there will always be compromise for the power unit at least if it is being made by the same company one would assume he would have input on any engine design decisions regarding placement of ancillaries etc.
Surely this would be the lure of Ferrari?

Crafty_

13,319 posts

202 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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belleair302 said:
Next stop racing yachts with Red Bull or Oracle and the USA....where he has lived and worked before.
Now, here's a funny thing, there is a chap in America with a soft spot for racing and a very big bank balance who is just setting up an F1 team... his other racing team is a partnership with one of the drivers, so he's used to not wholly owning a complete set up.
Designs a car, plays with the boats, everyone is happy ?

jbudgie

8,989 posts

214 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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noell35 said:
As an engineer you would think he would prefer to work for a team that has control over both the engine and body. He seems to loathe the compromises he has to make for the Renault engine and while there will always be compromise for the power unit at least if it is being made by the same company one would assume he would have input on any engine design decisions regarding placement of ancillaries etc.
Surely this would be the lure of Ferrari?
That makes sense.smile

Fonz

361 posts

186 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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AN and RB to a Ferrari LMP1 project? It would be mega to see that happen.

DanielSan

18,866 posts

169 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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williamp said:
When the Chinese race was on he was at silverstone, as a guest of Porsche for the WEC race

And there's already a degree of Red Bull involvement at Porsche, regs are certainly more free reign than F1.

Personally I think an offer from Ferrari has been made but don't think he'll go.

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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DanielSan said:
And there's already a degree of Red Bull involvement at Porsche, regs are certainly more free reign than F1.

Personally I think an offer from Ferrari has been made but don't think he'll go.
I think it's attractive to Newey - full control over engine and car, plus he'll finally be able to own a bit of the company (well, Fiat anyway), and they have that fantastic garage full of amazing old cars, and a test track, to cock about with.

I guess some kind of run at LMP might be in the offing too, and that would be a real challenge.

tuffer

8,850 posts

269 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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He is going to leave F1, move to Portsmouth and design the new Red Bull sponsored British Americas Cup team yacht........

ajprice

27,825 posts

198 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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hehe

TheHighlander

1,295 posts

200 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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I didn't think he dismissed the idea completely on the F1 show.

Would be good to see him at Ferrari and it would be good to see how Redbull would cope.

cookracing

155 posts

148 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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TheHighlander said:
I didn't think he dismissed the idea completely on the F1 show.

Would be good to see him at Ferrari and it would be interesting to see what Redbull do with their F1 programme.
Fixed that for you wink

DJRC

23,563 posts

238 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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The question is money. Or more to the point...has Ainslie persuaded Dieter to front up the dosh for a GBR Americas Cup run on an AN sabattical? The competition right now is Alonso v Ainslie as they are the two trump cards. To be fair Ferrari and the Americas Cup are both equal draws. Id never bet against Ainslie though...