Hockenheim dropped
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AMD 87, they don't normally have those "sleeping policemen" there for the F1, too much chance to launch a car into the air at 300+kmh, think the pic was taken at another meeting.
FWIW the drivers almost universally list Spa along with Suzuka as their favourite circuit, think they would be well up for it, won't happen though.
It is rather a slap on the face for Mercedes, although I guess they have other markets worldwide more in need of the glitter of an F1 race, and last years German GP was surprisingly bereft of spectators, so, maybe not such a loss to them after all.
Suspect they are more worried about DTM from a domestic publicity point of view.
FWIW the drivers almost universally list Spa along with Suzuka as their favourite circuit, think they would be well up for it, won't happen though.
It is rather a slap on the face for Mercedes, although I guess they have other markets worldwide more in need of the glitter of an F1 race, and last years German GP was surprisingly bereft of spectators, so, maybe not such a loss to them after all.
Suspect they are more worried about DTM from a domestic publicity point of view.
Confirmed: no German GP this year, 19 races only. At least it wasn't one of the live BBC ones.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31994404
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31994404
Can't blame them really. Is it worth it? Too many circuits struggle to afford the hosting fee, just for 1 race. And not only that, plenty of circuits have made changes, for 1 series. And we know which one.
How long do Silverstone, Spa, Monza keep paying? And what about the teams? I think it says everything about the sport; they appear not to be too worried about it.
The sport needs sorting out and quick.
How long do Silverstone, Spa, Monza keep paying? And what about the teams? I think it says everything about the sport; they appear not to be too worried about it.
The sport needs sorting out and quick.
Mr_Thyroid said:
At least it wasn't one of the live BBC ones.
One slight problem with that is that the agreement between the BBC and Sky means the BBC cannot have more than two consecutive live races, and Sky cannot have more than two consecutive 'exclusives'. The removal of the German race means that the BBC will have three consecutive live races.The BBC should be able to claim force majeure and still keep the three, but if they can't then one of their live races will have to become highlights. If that is the case the only race of the three that they can realistically change to highlights is Hungary (no great loss IMO). They can't change Spa as they would then have three highlights in succession (Belgium, Italy, Singapore), and they can't change Silverstone as their agreement with Sky also stipulates that the BBC must be able to show the British Grand Prix live. So, Hungary it is.
This is just speculation on my part though.
Gaz. said:
corozin said:
The prices at the circuits would be far more reasonable if Bernie wasn't screwing everyone for every cent and then giving it to his spoilt daughters.
Most of the prices at most of the tracks aren't actually that bad, it's only really Silverstone that *really* takes the piss:http://f1destinations.com/2014-f1-tickets-analysis...
Bernie is no doubt a very good business man but is not stupid and I would guess the races in say silverstone,spa,monaco and monza pay less than the newer circuits as he realised the importance and history of these circuits.The German GP is the same and probably get a reasonable price but the problem is they are run so badly and for some reason the attendances have been poor for the last few years.
Silverstone is run and owned by the BRDC with no government money but is well organised and is pretty much filled to capacity so the high ticket prices reflect supply and demand but even with this I doubt they make much money from it.
I dont know why but think there still is a chance of having a German GP in 2015.I certainly hope so as I have booked a GP tour there but will probably be switched to another race if it does not happen.
btcc123 said:
Gaz. said:
corozin said:
The prices at the circuits would be far more reasonable if Bernie wasn't screwing everyone for every cent and then giving it to his spoilt daughters.
Most of the prices at most of the tracks aren't actually that bad, it's only really Silverstone that *really* takes the piss:http://f1destinations.com/2014-f1-tickets-analysis...
Bernie is no doubt a very good business man but is not stupid and I would guess the races in say silverstone,spa,monaco and monza pay less than the newer circuits as he realised the importance and history of these circuits.The German GP is the same and probably get a reasonable price but the problem is they are run so badly and for some reason the attendances have been poor for the last few years.
Silverstone is run and owned by the BRDC with no government money but is well organised and is pretty much filled to capacity so the high ticket prices reflect supply and demand but even with this I doubt they make much money from it.
I dont know why but think there still is a chance of having a German GP in 2015.I certainly hope so as I have booked a GP tour there but will probably be switched to another race if it does not happen.
Neither does he care about history. He's shown and said that many times. If he did we wouldn't have some of the newer races that are, in truth, not wanted by anyone but him and the hosts.
You are right that even the well supported races don't make much money, because BE charges too much for the 'privilege' of hosting the races.
You are right that the newer races generally have lower ticket prices, because the demand for the tickets is low. Look carefully, beyond the clever camera work and you'll see half empty grandstands at all of them. I think the German GP has suffered badly in terms of attendance since they emasculated Hockenheim.
REALIST123 said:
Wouldn't agree. I think the ticket prices are purely supply and demand. Bernie would not reduce ticket prices because he gets paid more from the hosts. Not at all. He will want as much as he can get from wherever he can get it.
I didn't think the ticket prices were anything to do with Bernie. That is the one and only thing he leaves to the individual circuits to make money from to cover their own costs, and if they're very lucky make a small profit from. You can say hockenheim's attendance has suffered since it changed but to infer there is a link is probably wrong. Surely it is a much better circuit for the spectator now - in terms of pure viewing.
Also, history schmistory - caring about history and change are not mutually exclusive. In fact change and growth protects history by increasing interest. There is no right for Germany, France, Italy or Britain to be on the calendar because that's where the wealth was in the 50s, 60s, 70s etc and because they've always been there. Just as new drivers deserve to replace the old, new, emerging wealthy nations deserve their chance too.
Also, history schmistory - caring about history and change are not mutually exclusive. In fact change and growth protects history by increasing interest. There is no right for Germany, France, Italy or Britain to be on the calendar because that's where the wealth was in the 50s, 60s, 70s etc and because they've always been there. Just as new drivers deserve to replace the old, new, emerging wealthy nations deserve their chance too.
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