Is Johnny Herbert on his period?
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Damon hasn't a controversial bone in his body, he's way too professional for that. Alan Partridge Simon Lazonby knows all too well after his Monaco gaff that it isn't the anchors job, Martin Brundel won't say anything the big boss won't endorse and Ted Kravitz, well I think he just doesn't have the spare mental capacity whilst he concentrates on getting things completely wrong
Very good!If you ever get the chance to talk to Johnny, he's an unashamed Lewis fan. Why? He says that whenever he asks Rosberg about competition from others and the advantages other teams might have over him, he expresses an opinion that he'd rather they didn't have that advantage. Whenever he talks to Lewis, Lewis' response is always 'bring them on'. Johnny just likes a racer.
I guess it's possible Sky are trying to position him as a controversial character, but he's too transparent to make a decent first of that. He is the first to admit that's he's not a great broadcaster to, FWIW.
I guess it's possible Sky are trying to position him as a controversial character, but he's too transparent to make a decent first of that. He is the first to admit that's he's not a great broadcaster to, FWIW.
hora said:
He has form. In the 90's he banged on that Damon was gifted the seat/title and it should have been him.
To be fair before his accident he was the next big thing in the British scene, but he should realise it takes a lot outside the car to succeed in f1, his career was definitely a let down. I'm not saying he might have done better but in that 'charging' year he won one race that effectively blanked over the next 5 before the fateful crash?
That wasn't showing storming promise.
Hills route was rockier, F3 fell through and F3000 too due to lack of sponsorship. He should have been in F1 alot earlier but didn't have the breaks that Herbert did earlier on.
That wasn't showing storming promise.
Hills route was rockier, F3 fell through and F3000 too due to lack of sponsorship. He should have been in F1 alot earlier but didn't have the breaks that Herbert did earlier on.
Edited by hora on Sunday 3rd April 19:22
hora said:
I'm not saying he might have done better but in that 'charging' year he won one race that effectively blanked over the next 5 before the fateful crash?
That wasn't showing storming promise.
Hills route was rockier, F3 fell through and F3000 too due to lack of sponsorship. He should have been in F1 alot earlier but didn't have the breaks that Herbert did earlier on.
I still have the Cellnet gear that Hill showered the crowds with in 1988. He certainly seemed very well funded then...That wasn't showing storming promise.
Hills route was rockier, F3 fell through and F3000 too due to lack of sponsorship. He should have been in F1 alot earlier but didn't have the breaks that Herbert did earlier on.
Edited by hora on Sunday 3rd April 19:22
noell35 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Simon Lazonby knows all too well after his Monaco gaff that it isn't the anchors job
Must've missed that one. What did he do?
LB14 said:
He's the weak link in the Sky F1 team IMO.
I think you missed out the words- "on of the"F1 coverage needs commentators and.... oh look, nothing else, Brundle and Shouty Mouth are safe plus a couple of camera people, the other 452 people SKY insist on taking are pointless! Even Pitlane man is largely irrelevant FFS, Murry Walker did F1 on his own or as a pair for decades and no one complaining, the coverage is only marginally better now and its not because SKY took an entire 747 to get their team there.
scubadude said:
LB14 said:
He's the weak link in the Sky F1 team IMO.
I think you missed out the words- "on of the"F1 coverage needs commentators and.... oh look, nothing else, Brundle and Shouty Mouth are safe plus a couple of camera people, the other 452 people SKY insist on taking are pointless! Even Pitlane man is largely irrelevant FFS, Murry Walker did F1 on his own or as a pair for decades and no one complaining, the coverage is only marginally better now and its not because SKY took an entire 747 to get their team there.
hora said:
I'm not saying he might have done better but in that 'charging' year he won one race that effectively blanked over the next 5 before the fateful crash?
That wasn't showing storming promise.
Hills route was rockier, F3 fell through and F3000 too due to lack of sponsorship. He should have been in F1 alot earlier but didn't have the breaks that Herbert did earlier on.
eh?That wasn't showing storming promise.
Hills route was rockier, F3 fell through and F3000 too due to lack of sponsorship. He should have been in F1 alot earlier but didn't have the breaks that Herbert did earlier on.
Edited by hora on Sunday 3rd April 19:22
He won the 1985 Formula Ford Festival, was British F3 champ in 1987 and got pole and won his first F3000 race (or at least the first race of the fateful 1988 season)?
I remember him being touted by James Hunt as the next big thing, he was also chosen in Car and Car Conversions magazine as their racing driver of the year so a few people thought he was fairly good behind the wheel.
He was right about Schumacher, he was a dirty, dangerous cheat.
And let's face it, brining Alonso down a peg or two can only be applauded!
Herbert definitely has a chip on his shoulder, ironically his three wins in F1 all came by default, twice due to Schumacher/Hill clashes and once due to a Ralf puncture. He never actually won an F1 race on merit. Ironic that if it had not been for Schumacher family misfortunes he may never have won a race.
He has had a pathological hatred of Schumacher and Briatore ever since 1995 and the whole 'cheeky chappy' persona is fake and hides a lot of bitterness in my opinion.
The most telling part of the Alonso exchange was how chummy he suddenly acted when FA doorstepped him. The guy is false and fake through and through, he was clearly trying to act friendly to Alonso's face whilst talking utter b***ocks a few seconds before.
Sky do have a tabloid agenda so no one should be surprised by their constant attempts to create controversy where there is none. I am surprised that CH4 on presumably a fractional budget has done such a great job in only two races with thoughtful and intelligent insight, something Sky have not achieved in years (Brundle and Davidson excepted).
Anyone who thinks Alonso is past it has clearly forgotten two seasons ago when he was putting a diabolical Ferrari into places that car had no right to be. He may or may not win again but undoubtedly is one of the best on the grid, also according to his current F1 contemporaries, not a washed up third rate driver from 20 years ago.
He has had a pathological hatred of Schumacher and Briatore ever since 1995 and the whole 'cheeky chappy' persona is fake and hides a lot of bitterness in my opinion.
The most telling part of the Alonso exchange was how chummy he suddenly acted when FA doorstepped him. The guy is false and fake through and through, he was clearly trying to act friendly to Alonso's face whilst talking utter b***ocks a few seconds before.
Sky do have a tabloid agenda so no one should be surprised by their constant attempts to create controversy where there is none. I am surprised that CH4 on presumably a fractional budget has done such a great job in only two races with thoughtful and intelligent insight, something Sky have not achieved in years (Brundle and Davidson excepted).
Anyone who thinks Alonso is past it has clearly forgotten two seasons ago when he was putting a diabolical Ferrari into places that car had no right to be. He may or may not win again but undoubtedly is one of the best on the grid, also according to his current F1 contemporaries, not a washed up third rate driver from 20 years ago.
Edited by cgt2 on Thursday 7th April 18:44
hora said:
Alonso isn't past it talentwise.
His head though?
Not exactly spanked Button as expected though has he? He could still get the job done if given the tools to do so, but even if he could get into a Merc I don't think he would have much (if any) of an edge over Rosberg these days and he certainly wouldn't be a match for Hamilton if they teamed up again. His head though?
hora said:
Alonso isn't past it talentwise.
His head though?
I am also a bit concerned about Alonso's mental health.His head though?
He has had two most likely avoidable crashes, causing a lot of damage to himself and the car.
The first strange crash was the one in testing last year, and now the one this year.
It all seems a bit suspicious to me for such an experienced driver to suddenly start trying to outdo Pastor Maldonado.
I get the impression he does not want to drive this car with Honda engine and is doing all he can to be sacked.
lbc said:
I am also a bit concerned about Alonso's mental health.
He has had two most likely avoidable crashes, causing a lot of damage to himself and the car.
The first strange crash was the one in testing last year, and now the one this year.
It all seems a bit suspicious to me for such an experienced driver to suddenly start trying to outdo Pastor Maldonado.
I get the impression he does not want to drive this car with Honda engine and is doing all he can to be sacked.
Risking his life to get the sack? Really?He has had two most likely avoidable crashes, causing a lot of damage to himself and the car.
The first strange crash was the one in testing last year, and now the one this year.
It all seems a bit suspicious to me for such an experienced driver to suddenly start trying to outdo Pastor Maldonado.
I get the impression he does not want to drive this car with Honda engine and is doing all he can to be sacked.
Is there any actual footage of the first crash in testing last year? Wasn't there a strong rumour that the McLaren failed?
Even his latest accident, didn't see many saying it was 100% his fault.
Edited by Superbad on Thursday 7th April 19:41
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