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E34-3.2 said:
Bottas has to bank on Hamilton terrible starts. A bit like he did in Bahrain but he made a costly mistake aftewards.
Strange how Hamilton has one of the best reaction time to the green light on the grid but one of the worst to get the car moving without loosing ground.
Yes, it seems inherent. He basically lost the 2016 championship because he kept dropping places at the start. Maybe every driver has a weakness. Hamilton's is the start, Max's is hitting other people, Vettel's is keeping in a straight lineStrange how Hamilton has one of the best reaction time to the green light on the grid but one of the worst to get the car moving without loosing ground.
fesuvious said:
Bottas deserves huge credit for his attitude this year.
It would be very easy to settle for no.2 status. He isn't. I am a BIG Hamilton fan, happy thought that Bottas genuinely intends to go for the title however. It's great for F1.
This was the case in Melbourne, but the new Bottas went missing in Bahrain, 30 seconds behind Hamilton!It would be very easy to settle for no.2 status. He isn't. I am a BIG Hamilton fan, happy thought that Bottas genuinely intends to go for the title however. It's great for F1.
Piginapoke said:
fesuvious said:
Bottas deserves huge credit for his attitude this year.
It would be very easy to settle for no.2 status. He isn't. I am a BIG Hamilton fan, happy thought that Bottas genuinely intends to go for the title however. It's great for F1.
This was the case in Melbourne, but the new Bottas went missing in Bahrain, 30 seconds behind Hamilton!It would be very easy to settle for no.2 status. He isn't. I am a BIG Hamilton fan, happy thought that Bottas genuinely intends to go for the title however. It's great for F1.
HTP99 said:
I don't get this "new Bottas" thing, sure he got away better than Hamilton in Australia and convincingly won, however didn't Hamilton have floor damage?
there's a lot of people on that hype train isn't there. Its one good race where the only other car that could challenge him was carrying damage, probably Hamilton's fault as he was pretty classy and let bottas have his day in the sun without mentioning it, many other drivers would have had their cry face and excuse ready for anyone listening.Not saying it won't be interesting to see a quicker bottas challenging Hamilton more often but I'm not putting money on it!
HTP99 said:
I don't get this "new Bottas" thing, sure he got away better than Hamilton in Australia and convincingly won, however didn't Hamilton have floor damage?
And Bottas car in Bahrain had an issue that caused his car to lose aero performance, something trapped in the front wing if I remember rightly... 
So we haven't really seen a proper race between them this year yet. I'd love to see Bottas pushing Hamilton all season but I'm not convinced it's going to happen. E34-3.2 said:
Bottas has to bank on Hamilton terrible starts. A bit like he did in Bahrain but he made a costly mistake aftewards.
Strange how Hamilton has one of the best reaction time to the green light on the grid but one of the worst to get the car moving without loosing ground.
Is this statistically true?Strange how Hamilton has one of the best reaction time to the green light on the grid but one of the worst to get the car moving without loosing ground.
Teddy Lop said:
HTP99 said:
I don't get this "new Bottas" thing, sure he got away better than Hamilton in Australia and convincingly won, however didn't Hamilton have floor damage?
there's a lot of people on that hype train isn't there. Its one good race where the only other car that could challenge him was carrying damage, probably Hamilton's fault as he was pretty classy and let bottas have his day in the sun without mentioning it, many other drivers would have had their cry face and excuse ready for anyone listening.Not saying it won't be interesting to see a quicker bottas challenging Hamilton more often but I'm not putting money on it!
TheDeuce said:
True, and the hype is entirely unfounded. Hamilton did have floor damage and ended up 20 seconds behind bottas in Melbourne. In Bahrain however, no damage and 30 seconds ahead. No part of anything we have seen so far suggests bottas is any more of a title contender than before.
I guess many people would rather see a bottas challenge therefore interpret things optimistically, lacking my cold hearted rationalist.HTP99 said:
Piginapoke said:
fesuvious said:
Bottas deserves huge credit for his attitude this year.
It would be very easy to settle for no.2 status. He isn't. I am a BIG Hamilton fan, happy thought that Bottas genuinely intends to go for the title however. It's great for F1.
This was the case in Melbourne, but the new Bottas went missing in Bahrain, 30 seconds behind Hamilton!It would be very easy to settle for no.2 status. He isn't. I am a BIG Hamilton fan, happy thought that Bottas genuinely intends to go for the title however. It's great for F1.
Teddy Lop said:
TheDeuce said:
True, and the hype is entirely unfounded. Hamilton did have floor damage and ended up 20 seconds behind bottas in Melbourne. In Bahrain however, no damage and 30 seconds ahead. No part of anything we have seen so far suggests bottas is any more of a title contender than before.
I guess many people would rather see a bottas challenge therefore interpret things optimistically, lacking my cold hearted rationalist.All we know for sure is that Ferrari appear potentially very fast, Redbull have a decent PU at last, and bottas wants to do some winning. Where that all leads to is anyone's guess. I suspect however that Hamilton will take his sixth title this year.
The only guaranteed result this year is Williams.
The 'Bottas' thing is nothing more than media hype. If F1 know one thing, it's how to generate media stories to promote the business (and interest). Bottas is still Bottas. A fast driver but lacking consistent race pace, with a tendency to fade if conditions aren't perfect.
LeClerc will be the one to watch in this race. Will his engine hold together and will he manage to humble Vettel in consecutive races?
LeClerc will be the one to watch in this race. Will his engine hold together and will he manage to humble Vettel in consecutive races?
This should be Ferraris to lose...
Merc have got there work cut out here, I expect to see (like Bahrain), alternate strategy, almost a reb bull like disruption to try to ensure a podium.
Expect Mclaren to do well again.
Renault look pretty slippery in race trim too.
Looking forward to what Red Bull can do, I think this will be a bit of a litmus test for the car, they are not getting much from the floor, might have to sacrifice straight line speed and add some rear wing to get that corner exit speed up.
Merc have got there work cut out here, I expect to see (like Bahrain), alternate strategy, almost a reb bull like disruption to try to ensure a podium.
Expect Mclaren to do well again.
Renault look pretty slippery in race trim too.
Looking forward to what Red Bull can do, I think this will be a bit of a litmus test for the car, they are not getting much from the floor, might have to sacrifice straight line speed and add some rear wing to get that corner exit speed up.
Off topic but rather than start a new thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6nEqEDmta8
A comparison between Indycar and F1 at COTA.
Indycar 15% slower than F1; only marginally faster than F2 on a pretty much identical track.
I hadn't realised that they were quite that much slower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6nEqEDmta8
A comparison between Indycar and F1 at COTA.
Indycar 15% slower than F1; only marginally faster than F2 on a pretty much identical track.
I hadn't realised that they were quite that much slower.
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