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^ Apologies if I did get the wrong end of ths tick - i thought it was the injury part you were referring to.
Lots of people say F1 needs to be more dangerous. Having seen friends in club races come a cropper, and the effect it has on them / their mates, I can't agree. Allan's death at Le Mans was also a real dampener on the whole event.
On the other side, I wish there was still kitty litter. F1 would be a lot more interesting if e.g 6 drivers today would have had DNF's or at minimum lost 10+ seconds...
Lots of people say F1 needs to be more dangerous. Having seen friends in club races come a cropper, and the effect it has on them / their mates, I can't agree. Allan's death at Le Mans was also a real dampener on the whole event.
On the other side, I wish there was still kitty litter. F1 would be a lot more interesting if e.g 6 drivers today would have had DNF's or at minimum lost 10+ seconds...
5150 said:
Much as I dislike Hamilton, the journalist there comes across as a proper stroppy lady. Complete bellend.Biker 1 said:
Hungrymc said:
Look at MotoGP and who different the key players are there.... I can understand anyone not liking Rossi, Jorge or Marc for behavior / personality traits, but we're privileged to see them on track together.
Ahhh.... Lets not forget that if a Moto GP rider cocks it up, he risks serious injury & there is no second chance after an 'off'. If you get it wrong in F1??I appreciate that F1 drivers are undoubtedly extremely skilled, & have some sort of 6th sense in terms of reflexes, but FFS, its like some sort of pathetic shadow of what it once was, & LH, in my view, exemplifies all that is rotten, along with Ecclestone & the rest. Such a dull spectacle.
Your being daft in the safety comparison. MotoGP is now very selective over the circuits it uses in order ensure riders are unlikely to hit something. Airbags to protect neck and collar bones, still using rider aids. It's not meant to be daredevils risking life and limb with gay abandon. It's sportsmen and engineers at the very top of their game. Was it Mugello a couple of years ago when Marc came off at 210mph and scratched his chin? i celebrate the fact that MotoGP is on the right path in terms of safety enhancements - it needs to trickle down to more club circuits. But it's foolish (and maybe irrelevant?) to suggest either is safe - and surprisingly similar statistics for tragic losses in the top category's over the last 30 or so years.
Trabi601 said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I suspect the same is true of Hamilton, or the Fresh Prince of Stevenage as he appears to be trying to style himself.
Or, as my wife said... 'the Fresh Prince of Bell End'.Casual racism on here toward Lewis is awful
BJG1 said:
Trabi601 said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I suspect the same is true of Hamilton, or the Fresh Prince of Stevenage as he appears to be trying to style himself.
Or, as my wife said... 'the Fresh Prince of Bell End'.Casual racism on here toward Lewis is awful
I feel largely the same about Tim Westwood.
Both are trying far too hard to be something they're not.
Disastrous said:
5150 said:
Much as I dislike Hamilton, the journalist there comes across as a proper stroppy lady. Complete bellend.Just checked, as far as I can see this is the only post on the guardian from Barry Glendenning in the last 12 months, he would do well to remember what Thumper said to Bambi!
Trabi601 said:
Rubbish.
I feel largely the same about Tim Westwood.
Both are trying far too hard to be something they're not.
Are you a close, personal friend of Lewis Hamilton?I feel largely the same about Tim Westwood.
Both are trying far too hard to be something they're not.
He is enjoying his life in the way he sees fit, you have no idea if it's 'the real him'. It's ok not to like his personality but it's ridiculous to decide that you know he's pretending to be something he's not.
BJG1 said:
Trabi601 said:
Rubbish.
I feel largely the same about Tim Westwood.
Both are trying far too hard to be something they're not.
Are you a close, personal friend of Lewis Hamilton?I feel largely the same about Tim Westwood.
Both are trying far too hard to be something they're not.
He is enjoying his life in the way he sees fit, you have no idea if it's 'the real him'. It's ok not to like his personality but it's ridiculous to decide that you know he's pretending to be something he's not.
I don't get this hatred of Lewis in regards to his lifestyle.
Yes he grew up in Stevenage and has a white mum but he is of black decent so what if he wants to play gangsta, wear gold chains or listen to rap/rnb most of his ethnic peers in his financial position do this.
People need to remember he's not a white middle class lad so comparing him to all the other 'greats' is stupid.
Also someone mentioned Kimi earlier in the thread as a shining light for the fans.
I know there's so much love for him here so don't expect to get much support with the following statement but..
Get out of here personally to me his one word answers and boring monotone voice show more contempt to the fans than Lewis messing about in a press conference (that most fans don't even watch)
5150 said:
I just read that and came to post it here... I love the last bit,"While the 3,000 or so reader comments that greeted that particular article are not an entirely scientific barometer of public opinion, the heartwarming consensus seemed to be that far from polarising opinion because he is a black man, Hamilton does so because he can be a bit of a surly git."
I am inclined to agree. Awesome driver, lovely guy in private by all accounts. Has immature moments, don't we all... (and we aren't hounded and baited by the press)
Disastrous said:
5150 said:
Much as I dislike Hamilton, the journalist there comes across as a proper stroppy lady. Complete bellend.Have to love the pentulant twerps "explanation" of hamiltons lack of popularity too... rightio then, love him or despise him doesnt alter he's probably the sports biggest global star in 20 years... WTF are they lining their bubbles with?
hairyben said:
Oh, how I love the superior psuedo intelectual claptrap of the guardian. I've always felt a bit of a lefty envy slant to the Hamhate camp, I guess the council boy done good has allsorts of class betrayal and thatcherism written all over it?
Have to love the pentulant twerps "explanation" of hamiltons lack of popularity too... rightio then, love him or despise him doesnt alter he's probably the sports biggest global star in 20 years... WTF are they lining their bubbles with?
'Council boy done good'.Have to love the pentulant twerps "explanation" of hamiltons lack of popularity too... rightio then, love him or despise him doesnt alter he's probably the sports biggest global star in 20 years... WTF are they lining their bubbles with?
His dad was an IT contractor, hardly 'council'. I reckon there's a fairly significant proportion of PH members who would call themselves 'IT contractors' - and this was back in the 90s / early 2000s when it was a licence to print money.
5150 said:
For a while, I've been thinking how to describe the way Hamilton come across lately. This made me chuckle because it is pretty much it.'Increasingly prone to conducting himself in the manner of a man who believes he is some sort of riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, more often than not his attempts to appear brooding and inscrutable come across as the childishness of a paranoid brat'.
hairyben said:
Disastrous said:
5150 said:
Much as I dislike Hamilton, the journalist there comes across as a proper stroppy lady. Complete bellend.Have to love the pentulant twerps "explanation" of hamiltons lack of popularity too... rightio then, love him or despise him doesnt alter he's probably the sports biggest global star in 20 years... WTF are they lining their bubbles with?
It's interesting to note that he seems to be the easiest driver to impose one's own prejudices onto though. As in, if you hate 'celebrity' it's easy to hate him as a vacuous example of one. If you hate hip hop culture, it's easy to hate him as a wannabe gangster etc.
Personally I just find him extraordinarily bland as a personality. I don't hate him at all but just find him deeply uninteresting off the race track. Nearly every season, he begins to win me over with some seriously impressive driving and then at some point, he does an interview or a photo shoot that just makes me think how much I would hate to be stuck at a table with him whilst our mutual friend was at the bar or something.
Presumably you lot have read this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2016/10/10/me...
You win some, you lose some. But then, these guys are on a knife-edge mentally I guess....
You win some, you lose some. But then, these guys are on a knife-edge mentally I guess....
SmoothCriminal said:
Exactly.
I don't get this hatred of Lewis in regards to his lifestyle.
Yes he grew up in Stevenage and has a white mum but he is of black decent so what if he wants to play gangsta, wear gold chains or listen to rap/rnb most of his ethnic peers in his financial position do this.
People need to remember he's not a white middle class lad so comparing him to all the other 'greats' is stupid.
Also someone mentioned Kimi earlier in the thread as a shining light for the fans.
I know there's so much love for him here so don't expect to get much support with the following statement but..
Get out of here personally to me his one word answers and boring monotone voice show more contempt to the fans than Lewis messing about in a press conference (that most fans don't even watch)
Agreed, on both points.I don't get this hatred of Lewis in regards to his lifestyle.
Yes he grew up in Stevenage and has a white mum but he is of black decent so what if he wants to play gangsta, wear gold chains or listen to rap/rnb most of his ethnic peers in his financial position do this.
People need to remember he's not a white middle class lad so comparing him to all the other 'greats' is stupid.
Also someone mentioned Kimi earlier in the thread as a shining light for the fans.
I know there's so much love for him here so don't expect to get much support with the following statement but..
Get out of here personally to me his one word answers and boring monotone voice show more contempt to the fans than Lewis messing about in a press conference (that most fans don't even watch)
It's all a bit puerile/football-fan to start mocking sportmen/women for the way they dress or behave away from the sport. I'd always secretly hoped F1 bred a better standard of fan than that.
There also seems to be quite a lot of sneering at Hamilton - middle-class white people looking down their noses at, and poking fun at someone who they believe to be "pretending to be a gangster". Not terribly edifying stuff.
I'm also of a similar opinion to you on Kimi. I'm not really seeing what he does to generate such a huge following. He's an above-average driver, who clearly hangs around in F1 because it pays his bills - although he's not achieved a great deal other than in dominant cars in 05/07. Clearly a capable driver, if he could be bothered - not sure why people find that so endearing...
tommunster10 said:
The problem I see is that people will call Nico a "plastic champion" as some one did above and suggest he's unworthy. But how can you say that and not pass a thought at Lewis being a twice champion with only one other driver to ever beat, who is low and behold the 'plastic champion" in waiting...
Shhh! You're meant to keep this a secret! A secret that will provide you with endless amusement (if you stick around this forum) at the way some get their knickers in a twist about a 'lesser' driver taking the WDC from their obviously superior, legendary, favourite one. Also, look out for the 'woe is me' posts about reliability. Seems to mirror the attitude of the driver in question too. 
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