Official 2022 Italian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Sandpit Steve said:
Tsunoda has a three-place penalty, for failing to slow for yellow flags in P1.
Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
Or hold them in the pitlane for X seconds after the start.Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
vaud said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Tsunoda has a three-place penalty, for failing to slow for yellow flags in P1.
Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
Or hold them in the pitlane for X seconds after the start.Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
However it works it shouldn't be 'free' because you're already grid dropped.
I suspect we'll see something along these lines bought in next season because multiple teams are now playing fast and loose with free component swaps, which is the exact opposite of what the FIA wanted in terms of efficientcy when they introduced the penalties in the first place. This way of doing things won't last.
M3ax said:
Can anyone explain to me why there was no text commentary for FP1? Are they all taking the opportunity to have a day off? I’m sure the recently departed would not have wanted usual service to be interrupted? What’s going on? Is it just the bbc?
The BBC kinda have to respect a period of national mourning.. it doesn't make sense in a commercialised world but they're publicly funded and can't spend public money not mourning, when in theory all public will be.Even though they won't be.
vaud said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Tsunoda has a three-place penalty, for failing to slow for yellow flags in P1.
Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
Or hold them in the pitlane for X seconds after the start.Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
paua said:
vaud said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Tsunoda has a three-place penalty, for failing to slow for yellow flags in P1.
Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
Or hold them in the pitlane for X seconds after the start.Given that he already has a 10-place penalty, for accumulating five reprimands, should he really be allowed to mitigate all of this by taking new engine components and starting at the back?
IMHO sporting penalties for driving should be rolled over to the next event in this circumstance.
Stealthracer said:
Why not just paint in a few more grid slots behind the normal ones, so that if someone is demoted to, say, 23rd place, them that's where they'll start from?
Without thinking too hard about it that sounds like quite a good solution. It is 630am and I got a little sidetracked... Night all!
jsf said:
We used to have carry over penalties, it was a mess and scrapped.
How would you deal with a driver who has a ten place penalty for totting-up reprimands, a three-place penalty for ignoring yellow flags, and decides to mitigate these by taking a whole new powertrain as he’s at the back anyway? I can understand why they stopped rolling over, after the dozens of places of reliability penalties got silly, but surely the driving standards penalties should need to be served independently, even if that means serving them at the next event?
Piginapoke said:
Didn’t see much of yesterday, but it looks like another Max/RB win but maybe not pole. RB long runs on mediums look very strong.
Very impressed with Merc and McLaren, I thought they would be nowhere near on qualifying pace. Should be a more exciting Saturday than Sunday.
Come on Max!
It's likely to be another Verstappen walk in the (Royal) park, even if he starts from the back, I think.Very impressed with Merc and McLaren, I thought they would be nowhere near on qualifying pace. Should be a more exciting Saturday than Sunday.
Come on Max!
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The grid penalties for engine bits has always seemed very unfair on the drivers, who are not always the cause of needing to replace elements.
How about making the penalty more team based in the form of docked championship points, or inability to score points at the round the car took the new parts at?
The other obvious solution is to increase the number of elements allowed per season. Due to the number of elements tortured on test benches to achieve the current reliability, this may not actually increase the overall cost to the engine manufacturers, which was always cited as the reason for the element caps.
How about making the penalty more team based in the form of docked championship points, or inability to score points at the round the car took the new parts at?
The other obvious solution is to increase the number of elements allowed per season. Due to the number of elements tortured on test benches to achieve the current reliability, this may not actually increase the overall cost to the engine manufacturers, which was always cited as the reason for the element caps.
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