Croft has to go

Croft has to go

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LM240

4,695 posts

219 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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The Ron burgundy ‘joke’ made me want to punch the tv.

Blah blah blah... Ferrari’s have painted their cars burgundy, I’m calling the drivers Ron this weekend, after Ron burgundy, stay classy ferrari, stay classy.

Completely lame ramblings which he’d clearly thought about prior and managed to slip it in thinking it was clever and funny. Wtf?

Smollet

10,683 posts

191 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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He’ll only go when Brundle openly starts to show his contempt in much the same way by picking him up constantly on his errors as he did with Legard

Daston

6,081 posts

204 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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The guy cannot shut up for 5 seconds which does my head in. If nothing is going on it's ok to not speak. Wonder if he gets paid per word.

Ironically I find the Indycar commentary much better and less shouty (and their american!). Sure they get excited but only when there is a need to

DaveZed

77 posts

75 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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I have always found him somewhat annoying at times with his over-the-top screaming, but generally tolerable. Yesterday really was on another level. I simply HAD to mute him a dozen or so times. Simply reducing the volume is insufficient - when he gets into that banshee mode, he becomes intolerable at any volume.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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"And here's ricciardo GAINING, GAINING, GAINING, PASSING, PASSING, PASSING, and he's PASSSSED!!!"

Some previous posts in this thread claim he is exceptionally talented. He was at one stage, when Legard was on TV and Croft was on 5 live, but he's lost it.

DanielSan

18,835 posts

168 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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paulguitar said:
jimPH said:
Having watched quite a few older races recently, crofty's commentary is much better and would be sorely missed in my view.
Certainly not by many here!
Name a time when many on here are happy about anything?

Adrian W

Original Poster:

13,953 posts

229 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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DanielSan said:
Name a time when many on here are happy about anything?
Come on, his commentary is an assault, viewers want to watch and listen to the race, not have to turn the sound down because he is screaming gibberish.

I thought Sky recognised disabilities, autistic viewers have to watch with the sound turned down if Sky is the only way to watch the race live.

rdjohn

6,231 posts

196 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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His job is merely to describe what you are already looking at.

To most fans it’s virtually irrelevant, but he just can’t STFU, but throws in his high pitched blathering just to really upset us.

Even Brundle irritates me every race weekend with his habitual

“He’s opened the DRS - that’s T-H-E D-R-A-G R-E-D-U-C-T- I-O-N S-Y-S-T-E-M“

This is a dedicated F1 channel - surely they can believe that only morons are watching.

Oh wait a minute..... we are paying them for this insult.

Daston

6,081 posts

204 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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rdjohn said:
His job is merely to describe what you are already looking at.

To most fans it’s virtually irrelevant, but he just can’t STFU, but throws in his high pitched blathering just to really upset us.

Even Brundle irritates me every race weekend with his habitual

“He’s opened the DRS - that’s T-H-E D-R-A-G R-E-D-U-C-T- I-O-N S-Y-S-T-E-M“

This is a dedicated F1 channel - surely they can believe that only morons are watching.

Oh wait a minute..... we are paying them for this insult.
You make a good point and something I must just zone out of. There have been a few times I've had to google things whilst watching NASCAR as they don't explain it (jacking chains being the last one). So I do understand the need to sometimes explain it but not every race.

JmatthewB

916 posts

123 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Who would you have instead of Crofty? Ben Edwards is knowledgeable but I hate his voice, Jack Nicholls from 5 Live is decent but maybe not TV standard.

I quite like David Addison from ITV 4. He's really good on the BTCC and as the circuit commentator at the Silverstone GP weekend.

Alternatively do we need a 'lead' commentator? I quite liked the Brundle and Coulthard setup the BBC had in 2011. Put Mark Webber in alongside as well.

paulguitar

23,822 posts

114 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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JmatthewB said:
Who would you have instead of Crofty? Ben Edwards is knowledgeable but I hate his voice, Jack Nicholls from 5 Live is decent but maybe not TV standard.

I quite like David Addison from ITV 4. He's really good on the BTCC and as the circuit commentator at the Silverstone GP weekend.

Alternatively do we need a 'lead' commentator? I quite liked the Brundle and Coulthard setup the BBC had in 2011. Put Mark Webber in alongside as well.
Alex Jaques who does F2 is good, especially when he is calm. That's the main thing really, Ben Edwards is fine when he's calm too, but unbearable when yelling. These guys need to be told it's unnecessary and undesirable to go crazy. We're watching a motor race, not the loss of the Hindenburg.





NM62

952 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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+1 for Alex Jaques.

He did very well with the F2/F3 this weekend (as he does every weekend) managed to convey the excitement without any shouting and got 99% of things correct (as far as I noticed).

Croft started winding me up on Friday with his pronunciation of the corners and it continued all weekend (by which time I had zoned him out).

SKY need a clear out / cull as there is a fair bit of dead wood.





Gary C

12,569 posts

180 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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JmatthewB said:
Who would you have instead of Crofty? Ben Edwards is knowledgeable but I hate his voice, Jack Nicholls from 5 Live is decent but maybe not TV standard.

I quite like David Addison from ITV 4. He's really good on the BTCC and as the circuit commentator at the Silverstone GP weekend.

Alternatively do we need a 'lead' commentator? I quite liked the Brundle and Coulthard setup the BBC had in 2011. Put Mark Webber in alongside as well.
Its difficult

The 'main' presenter has a difficult job to keep some narrative going, even in the boring bits. They are a bit like the background music in a film that has to follow the story and pick up the rhythm for the exciting bits, but recently Croft has been more like Legard (ie a knob).

However, Coulthard really grated for me. He doesn't have a 'broadcast' voice, croft is better in that, if he could just bite back on the more inane comments and have at least 1/2 second think before starting on the next bit.
He always seems to want to produce a sound bite.

HardtopManual

2,447 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Polite M135 driver said:
David Croft also kept saying that arrabiata means ‘hungry’?
This had my piss on low boil all weekend. In fairness to Croft, it was actually Jenson Button who told him during FP-something that it meant "angry" but also "hungry and angry" - which Croft immediately got carried away with, then spent the rest of the week shouting "HANGRY" at every available opportunity.

He's basically a 14 year old boy in a 50 year old's body. And I'm being unkind to a lot of 14 year olds there.

boultonn

20 posts

112 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Pretty interesting read this, all his shouting kind of passed me by.
It's annoying when he gets stuff wrong (saying Hamilton had a puncture at Silverstone while watching footage of Bottas), or takes forever to tell us something that's been onscreen for ages.
I'd much rather Crofty to alex jaques, find his voice proper annoying, imo of course.

mk1coopers

1,227 posts

153 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Did my ears decieve me or at one point did he exclaim that this was Ferrari's 1000th memorial race, I know they are struggling but dead ?

Mr Pointy

11,323 posts

160 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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If you think Croft is bad you should have a listen to the French commentator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5NeXhAzsXg

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Daston said:
The guy cannot shut up for 5 seconds which does my head in. If nothing is going on it's ok to not speak. Wonder if he gets paid per word.

Ironically I find the Indycar commentary much better and less shouty (and their american!). Sure they get excited but only when there is a need to
Ironically Ben Edwards used to do champ cars for Eurosport in the Montoya era, and was highly technical and not shouty.

Gary C

12,569 posts

180 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Daston said:
Ironically I find the Indycar commentary much better and less shouty (and their american!). Sure they get excited but only when there is a need to
except they call the straights 'straightaways' which really irritates me for some reason.

Stan the Bat

8,972 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Gary C said:
Daston said:
Ironically I find the Indycar commentary much better and less shouty (and their american!). Sure they get excited but only when there is a need to
except they call the straights 'straightaways' which really irritates me for some reason.
That always gets me.