The Official F1 2023 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2023 silly season *contains speculation*

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Deesee

8,495 posts

85 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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Seb found the time for another run today too..

What a machine..

thegreenhell

15,683 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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C Lee Farquar said:
honda_exige said:
On a technical level his feedback will be useful for AT to take the car forward, moreso now he has experience of the current RB.
I was going to suggest he didn't help McLaren much but I accept Red Bull know exactly how good his feedback is and he's good enough in their eyes.
I certainly got the impression that he's not the strongest on the technical side. He seems to rely on his natural speed, but quickly gets lost if the car isn't working for him. If the car is to his liking he'll be as quick as anyone, but don't expect him to get a bad car working for him.

honda_exige

6,078 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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Deesee said:
honda_exige said:
On a technical level his feedback will be useful for AT to take the car forward, moreso now he has experience of the current RB.

Useful metric to judge Yuki against and if Perez is kicked out then it opens up a seat for Lawson.
Yuki has dispatched De Vries, matched Pierre.. can’t see Dani Ric being up to it tbh, happily proved wrong.

A decent seat in the upper midfield is required to test him. (I really rate the guy, Lando levels).

Lawson has done a great job in super formula too.
Yuki - jury very much still out for me, was a little bit below Gasly who himself seems to be a touch below Econ so doesn't stand out. Still prone to brain fade like Silverstone just gone but without the precocious skills to justify it at this point. If he easily beats DR and gains consistency then he might be worth a go but in that eventuality I'd keep Perez and see how Yuki does against Lawson.

thegreenhell

15,683 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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Yuki won't get anywhere near a Red Bull. He's only there because of Honda, and as soon as the Honda deal ends he won't be in the AT either.

rallycross

12,870 posts

239 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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There was no point carrying on with DeV in the 2nd car may have been down to the car or the team rather than the driver but it certainly didn’t work out.

ralphrj

3,546 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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Deesee said:


Seb found the time for another run today too..

What a machine..
Ex-Senna 1993 McLaren MP4/8 owned by Seb and he will be driving it at the Goodwood Festival of Speed.

One of my all time favourite F1 cars.

vaud

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50,799 posts

157 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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ralphrj said:
Ex-Senna 1993 McLaren MP4/8 owned by Seb and he will be driving it at the Goodwood Festival of Speed.

One of my all time favourite F1 cars.
I think FoS has become a bit crazy in recent years but that is a sight I would like to see.

MissChief

7,153 posts

170 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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thegreenhell said:
Yuki won't get anywhere near a Red Bull. He's only there because of Honda, and as soon as the Honda deal ends he won't be in the AT either.
Heard some talk that Honda will want Tsunoda in the AM when they take Honda Engines. I assume in place of Alonso when he eventually retires.

C5_Steve

3,378 posts

105 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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Whilst I'm delighted to have DR back I think the way the RB group has treated Nyck is disgusting. Not only to bin him off not even half way through the season, but to not announce his departure on any social media and simply post that DR back just says it all. Even if they were unhappy with Nyck, they could have at least formalised his departure with a "Thanks for your work" etc etc before announcing DR back.

Not a surprise though given how Helmut and Horner talk about their drivers when they're underperforming and have trashed Nyck in the press openly since he started.

Alex is a fantastic example of how you support a driver to get more from the machine than expected and it's no shock he was able to shine outside the RB group.

MissChief

7,153 posts

170 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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C5_Steve said:
Whilst I'm delighted to have DR back I think the way the RB group has treated Nyck is disgusting. Not only to bin him off not even half way through the season, but to not announce his departure on any social media and simply post that DR back just says it all. Even if they were unhappy with Nyck, they could have at least formalised his departure with a "Thanks for your work" etc etc before announcing DR back.

Not a surprise though given how Helmut and Horner talk about their drivers when they're underperforming and have trashed Nyck in the press openly since he started.

Alex is a fantastic example of how you support a driver to get more from the machine than expected and it's no shock he was able to shine outside the RB group.
Gasly improved massively when he went back to TR/AT after leaving Red Bull. In fact every driver that's left the Red Bull has improved elsewhere.

honda_exige

6,078 posts

208 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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MissChief said:
In fact every driver that's left the Red Bull has improved elsewhere.
Danny Ricc?

Sebastian Vettel?

Daniil Kvyat?

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MissChief

7,153 posts

170 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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honda_exige said:
MissChief said:
In fact every driver that's left the Red Bull has improved elsewhere.
Danny Ricc?

Sebastian Vettel?

Daniil Kvyat?

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Pardon me, I should have said in likeability and fan engagement.

ajprice

27,769 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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Nyck DeVries and Toto Wolff chatting over a coffee in Monaco yesterday. And NDV being handed over 'on loan' last year. Nyck will be back in a Mercedes shirt soon.


Fundoreen

4,180 posts

85 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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ajprice said:
Nyck DeVries and Toto Wolff chatting over a coffee in Monaco yesterday. And NDV being handed over 'on loan' last year. Nyck will be back in a Mercedes shirt soon.

It just looks like nick telling his sob story while toto is tuned out and checking his messages lol.
Still ,if you are sitting in your local coffee shop in monoco life cant be too bad.

the-norseman

12,587 posts

173 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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Schumacher to Williams and then Nyck back at the side of Toto?

cuprabob

14,815 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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the-norseman said:
Schumacher to Williams and then Nyck back at the side of Toto?
There isn't a space at Williams unless you are implying Schumacher is going to replace either Albon or Sargent.

Nyck drove for AlphaTauri and Ricciardo has that seat now.


Smollet

10,730 posts

192 months

C5_Steve

3,378 posts

105 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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cuprabob said:
the-norseman said:
Schumacher to Williams and then Nyck back at the side of Toto?
There isn't a space at Williams unless you are implying Schumacher is going to replace either Albon or Sargent.

Nyck drove for AlphaTauri and Ricciardo has that seat now.
Read something today that RB have approached Albon with a view to coming back (unsure whether to RB or AT) and he's declined. Shows the faith he has in Williams.

mw88

1,457 posts

113 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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C5_Steve said:
Read something today that RB have approached Albon with a view to coming back (unsure whether to RB or AT) and he's declined. Shows the faith he has in Williams.
Or he's holding out for Sainz to leave Ferrari.

MustangGT

11,700 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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mw88 said:
C5_Steve said:
Read something today that RB have approached Albon with a view to coming back (unsure whether to RB or AT) and he's declined. Shows the faith he has in Williams.
Or he's holding out for Sainz to leave Ferrari.
Or he does not fancy going back into the toxic RB team culture.