Sebastian Vettel

Sebastian Vettel

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blade7

11,311 posts

218 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Roll on Silverstone....

LDN

8,955 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Not surprising but frustrating never the less. Should have had that race points docked and left it there.

Disastrous

10,094 posts

219 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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In fairness, whilst I would have wholeheartedly supported a black flag at the time of the incident, posthumous messing with results does the sport no favours. They took their punitive measures at the time and were too lenient, at the time. He shouldn't be punished again, a week afterwards.

Dermot O'Logical

2,629 posts

131 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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But this is Pistonheads!

Where are the demands for Sebastian Vettel to be charged with attempted murder???

Dusty964

6,925 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Disastrous said:
In fairness, whilst I would have wholeheartedly supported a black flag at the time of the incident, posthumous messing with results does the sport no favours. They took their punitive measures at the time and were too lenient, at the time. He shouldn't be punished again, a week afterwards.
Very well put. They were too lenient. To apply further penalties now doesnt look great for anyone.
The championship still has its rivalry, a fresh pantomine villian for people to hate as he stands between Hamilton and the title, and throngs of idiots to stand and boo from the stands.
Hopefully there will be plenty more incidents on and off the track to brighten up the remainder of the season.

dh00065p

127 posts

166 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Formula 1 used to be a sport but now it is about money so why would we be surprised that Vettel gets a slapped wrist for the second time.
When F1 was a sport and the drivers were sportsmen you never touched the other car unless by accident.
Now it is acceptable and the message to all young drivers in cars and karting is provided you apologise its ok to hit your opponent .
A sad day indeed
Money talks.

poo at Paul's

14,196 posts

177 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Dermot O'Logical said:
But this is Pistonheads!

Where are the demands for Sebastian Vettel to be charged with attempted murder???
He had to go to Paris. It's a sthole! He has been punished enough!!


Crafty_

13,312 posts

202 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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dh00065p said:
Formula 1 used to be a sport but now it is about money so why would we be surprised that Vettel gets a slapped wrist for the second time.
When F1 was a sport and the drivers were sportsmen you never touched the other car unless by accident.
Now it is acceptable and the message to all young drivers in cars and karting is provided you apologise its ok to hit your opponent .
A sad day indeed
Money talks.
Please explain how "money talks" in this case ? how has Vettel made "money talk" ?

No-one earned a bean out of this.

dh00065p

127 posts

166 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Formula 1 used to be a sport but now it is about money so why would we be surprised that Vettel gets a slapped wrist for the second time.
When F1 was a sport and the drivers were sportsmen you never touched the other car unless by accident.
Now it is acceptable and the message to all young drivers in cars and karting is provided you apologise its ok to hit your opponent .
A sad day indeed
Money talks.

Eric Mc

122,195 posts

267 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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I think a public apology is quite good. It's more than certain other World Champions have done.

Dermot O'Logical

2,629 posts

131 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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blade7 said:
Roll on Silverstone....
Why? What are you going to do?

37chevy

3,280 posts

158 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Eric Mc said:
I think a public apology is quite good. It's more than certain other World Champions have done.
It's hollow and meaningless. If he meant it then vettel would have apologised a week ago.

robbom3

264 posts

229 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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What a joke. A totally insincere apology from Vettel and a pathetic response from that bunch of toothless w@nkers at the FIA. No great surprise with Totd in charge though. He was never going to do anything that would ld hurt Ferrari's chances of winning the championship.

blade7

11,311 posts

218 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Dermot O'Logical said:
blade7 said:
Roll on Silverstone....
Why? What are you going to do?
I'm going to watch it on telly, is that OK with you?

CoolHands

18,822 posts

197 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Apologise for that right now! And mean it!

blade7

11,311 posts

218 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Eric Mc

122,195 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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37chevy said:
Eric Mc said:
I think a public apology is quite good. It's more than certain other World Champions have done.
It's hollow and meaningless. If he meant it then vettel would have apologised a week ago.
It might be hollow and meaningless. I'm not a mind reader so I can't say precisely what is going on in Vettel's head. It could be genuine - or it might be a cynical realisation that he is on the brink of picking up more points and getting a ban.

At least he apologised - which, for the moment, should be taken at face value. But he is skating on thin ice.

Byker28i

61,052 posts

219 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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If he does it again it'll be looked at unfavourably, just like they said last time.

Translated, Vettels statement says: "I'm very sorry. Once the lawyers and management pointed out to me the possibility of losing points, possible race starts and handing the championship lad over to Hamilton, I of course immediately recognised what I did was wrong and insincerely apologise for any wrongdoing that I didn't do"

Eric Mc

122,195 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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I'd baulk at calling Hamilton a mere "lad".

spunkytherabbit

442 posts

182 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Disastrous said:
In fairness, whilst I would have wholeheartedly supported a black flag at the time of the incident, posthumous messing with results does the sport no favours. They took their punitive measures at the time and were too lenient, at the time. He shouldn't be punished again, a week afterwards.
Very well put. One of the biggest criticisms of the way Mad Max used to handle things was the way he would interfere with stewards decisions, send out his goon squad and mess with the results post race. Todt has effectively kept the power in the hands of the stewards at the track on the day and bringing sensibilities into it, this has to be the best thing to do. I know, I know... internet forum, sensibilities have no place.

Once again this brings into stark reality both the issues with a specific decision stewards have made, as well as the difficulties they have in the wider context when having to make them. Mark Blundell's comments on all this are a very good insight into the role.

For the record I wanted Vettel tarred and feathered.

Edited by spunkytherabbit on Tuesday 4th July 09:12