F1 Past

[anonymous-user]

dr_gn said:

He was test driver for McLaren for about three years, then went to Benetton. I don’t think he ever got to race in that era, but of course went on to drive in F1 for Toyota.

No I think it was 2001 when he finally got his break "with as you say Toyota" as a test driver in 2001 and then a race seat for 2002.

Only lasted one season however which was a shame.

[Eric Mc]

paua said:

With regard to Nuvolari, anybody have any extended footage of the German GP of 1935?
The Alfa p3 used to live here, in NZ. Don't know if it still does.

One of my favourite books as a child was this - with artwork by Raymond Briggs -




It was from this book that I first learned of the legend of Nuvolari - and the legend of the Silver Arrows.

[williamp]

paua said:

With regard to Nuvolari, anybody have any extended footage of the German GP of 1935?
The Alfa p3 used to live here, in NZ. Don't know if it still does.

Never seen much at all. There is a bit here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q02fqN1FoJE

And there is this at donington

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/international-g...

[coppice]

If anyone's interest has been stimulated on this thread by discussion of pre war Grand Prix cars then keep 22July free. That is the day the very friendly , often eccentric and sometimes quite bonkers members of the VSCC race their cars at Cadwell Park. It is a gorgeous venue and as close as we get to the old style circuit free of catch fencing and with astonishingly close spectating. Thee are usually a bevy of GP ERAs and Bugattis etc and if you think , like I used to , 'oh , just a bunch of ancient cars being driven slowly by old farts ' you will be blown away and you will never forget the noise and smell.

[Eric Mc]

I've never been to Cadwell but it does look a lovely circuit.

[anonymous-user]

coppice said:

If anyone's interest has been stimulated on this thread by discussion of pre war Grand Prix cars then keep 22July free. That is the day the very friendly , often eccentric and sometimes quite bonkers members of the VSCC race their cars at Cadwell Park. It is a gorgeous venue and as close as we get to the old style circuit free of catch fencing and with astonishingly close spectating. Thee are usually a bevy of GP ERAs and Bugattis etc and if you think , like I used to , 'oh , just a bunch of ancient cars being driven slowly by old farts ' you will be blown away and you will never forget the noise and smell.

Sounds epic.

If I was closer I would be there in a flash

VSCC 2015 Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESIPmWXcxv0

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ9kD_Iqg8w

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 14th April 15:47

[anonymous-user]

Was at a speed festival a few years back and this was going around the track. Unfortunately the track was way too small for it but it could still move.

No idea what the car is as I only caught it at the end of the run but the engine looked huge.

[Eric Mc]

It's actually quite a "modern" car. It was built as recently as 2010 but most of its components are genuinely old. It has a heavily modified Bentley chassis in which has been plonked a 42litre Packard 12 cylinder engine.

It's definitely not a Grand Prix car though.

[thegreenhell]

Electronicpants said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Gerhard Berger Full Race Estoril 1989.

Worth the watch especially the end when he heads back to the pits and it's like parking the car at a car park rather than a celebration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72ITS_rYisw

Coming out from pitting and just gunning it https://youtu.be/72ITS_rYisw?t=50m53s

That didn't always go so well for him. A few years later, also at Estoril... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jmnBiFwKw

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

It's actually quite a "modern" car. It was built as recently as 2010 but most of its components are genuinely old. It has a heavily modified Bentley chassis in which has been plonked a 42litre Packard 12 cylinder engine.

It's definitely not a Grand Prix car though.

You have great knowledge.

Would never have guessed it was that new a build.

[anonymous-user]

thegreenhell said:

That didn't always go so well for him. A few years later, also at Estoril... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jmnBiFwKw

I am sure at the time the commentators thought it was just cold tyres but clearly it was a suspension issue.

Scary accident when you see how close he was to being hit.

[anonymous-user]

Supercharged Grand Prix Cars 1924-1939

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCP_GJ8JBOE

[ralphrj]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

I am sure at the time the commentators thought it was just cold tyres but clearly it was a suspension issue.

Scary accident when you see how close he was to being hit.

The active suspension dropped the rear of the car as it assumed he was on the main straight instead of in the pitlane. Unfortunately there was a big bump on the exit of the pits and the car bottomed out which caused the accident.

No pitlane speed limit those days either.

[anonymous-user]

Auto Union V16 C Type engine warm up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXgqZr8-5k

[paua]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Auto Union V16 C Type engine warm up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXgqZr8-5k

Piece of art. Imagine the size of the wheelbarrow needed to carry the cajones of the likes of Nuvolari, Rosemeyer & co. Crap tyres/ brakes etc & that engine. Hat doffed.

[glazbagun]

paua said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Auto Union V16 C Type engine warm up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXgqZr8-5k

Piece of art. Imagine the size of the wheelbarrow needed to carry the cajones of the likes of Nuvolari, Rosemeyer & co. Crap tyres/ brakes etc & that engine. Hat doffed.

With a metal fuel tank between you and the engine. How historic racers drive them is just as mad, imagine stepping from a 5*NCAP car into one of those and blasting it around a track!

Reckon it's more dangerous than a bike?

[Eric Mc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Auto Union V16 C Type engine warm up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXgqZr8-5k

Glorious.

Good job computers can't replicate the fumes.

[F1GTRUeno]

if anyone is around Manchester way, the McLaren dealer in Wilmslow has just had an MP4/5 delivered and on display on their wall.

[anonymous-user]

New Zealand Grand Prix (1961)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOvMCCVIa_A

1965 NEW ZEALAND INTERNATIONAL GRAND PRIX Pukekohe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW_EWR1bxOk

JIM CLARK 1965 Warwick Farm - Lotus 32B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZf8ZI3pqRA

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 16th April 14:28

[anonymous-user]

Not F1 but Jim Clark is in this event.

The Mini crash at 0:58 is crazy. How he was able to walk away.

BSCC Crystal Palace 1964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWp-0TuY4Sk