New car reveals

New car reveals

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HustleRussell

24,809 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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From the Mercedes video it looks as though the drivers are now going to have little step ladders to board and unboard the cars as they are so big (wide floor / high halo) hehe

Greeny

1,421 posts

261 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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There has to be some bits Mercedes have forgotten to bolt on, that looks anorexic, where is the rest of the bodywork?
Edit to add
The exposed floor area at the rear are for Red Bull and Ferrari to put bags of sand or concrete blocks on, makes sense noe

Edited by Greeny on Thursday 22 February 13:19

DS240

4,732 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
How is that "halo" going to stop a front wheel landing on top of the drivers helmet?
I don’t like them personally, but whoever has created the design will have been given a brief about what the main aims of the halo. All balanced against threat/risk.

A wheel landing with force coming from directly above is a very unlikely scenario as the target car is also going to need to be stationary. Even then the halo probably would deflect some of the force.

The main protection is a wheel or car flying in full frontal or at an angle.

The debate can go around and around about the pros and cons and the necessity of them. I think it’s a solution to a small risk problem which could be tackled with perhaps making the wheel tethering more robust.

They are here now so unlikely they’ll go again as who’s going to sign that off.

CraigyMc

16,567 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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HTP99 said:
Is the Halo a standard item that all teams have to integrate into the car in the best possible way, or is the Halo a different design for each team?
It's a standard item and is supplied to each team by one of three external manufacturers. The teams can do some limited shrouding around it, but the actual Halo structure isn't built by them.

kambites

67,746 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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DS240 said:


I do find it very impressive how an engine, hybrid system, gearbox, radiators, fuel tank and all associated gubbins are all packaged in that space behind the driver.
That packaging is pretty incredible, even compared to other cars revealed so far for this season.

Quickmoose

4,558 posts

125 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Toro Rosso and Sauber have aerofoils on their Halos
Mercedes doesn't...
McLaren and Williams seem to have more sculpture about their side pods... or am I seeing things?

A predictable evolutionary small-steps approach.

As with supercars these days, it's all about the colour(s) hehe
They all so far appear like improvements in that regard except for Renault which for me looked better last year.

CraigyMc

16,567 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Quickmoose said:
Toro Rosso and Sauber have aerofoils on their Halos
Mercedes doesn't...
McLaren and Williams seem to have more sculpture about their side pods... or am I seeing things?

A predictable evolutionary small-steps approach.

As with supercars these days, it's all about the colour(s) hehe
They all so far appear like improvements in that regard except for Renault which for me looked better last year.
I think all of them will have boomerang aerofoils on the halo by the first round. Launch packages often omit detail items like that.

HustleRussell

24,809 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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I would be inclined to guess that the teams who don't have aero appendages on their halos believe that they've found something other than the standard boomerang seen on the other cars.

Vaud

51,002 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Worth following these guys for tech analysis of the new cars

https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech
https://twitter.com/SomersF1

DanielSan

18,868 posts

169 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Steve57 said:
It’s going to be stupidly fast, but they’ve actually removed colour from the livery and made it look more dull!

miniwill58

121 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Looking forward to seeing what Ferrari come up with. Think the launch is in 20 minutes or so.

LocoBlade

7,627 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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CraigyMc said:
McLaren are at Navarra in Northern Spain.

I think the airport in the photo is likely to be Vitoria Airport, which is not at all far from the circuit.
Taken circa 2005 I suspect, the upsweep on those sidepods doesn't look current and it appears that various sponsors have been airbrushed out along the side of the truck

budgie smuggler

5,428 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
That logic is a bit like refusing to wear a condom when sleeping with a hooker because it won't protect you if she stabs you....

It'd need to be a pretty bullseye shot - and the halo can guard against other eventualities.

You can't dismiss it just because it doesn't guard against all eventualities.
Well I agree but look at the pics here:

https://twitter.com/SomersF1/status/96664376753203...

If you look at a front on pic it doesn't look like it would have saved Massa, and if you look at a side on pic, it doesn't look like it would have saved Surtees. Guessing it would be good though for larger objects coming frontwards, e.g. when Alonso and Grosjean (iirc) clashed at the first corner in Spa a few years back and the car rode over the nose towards the driver

Vaud

51,002 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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budgie smuggler said:
Guessing it would be good though for larger objects coming frontwards, e.g. when Alonso and Grosjean (iirc) clashed at the first corner in Spa a few years back and the car rode over the nose towards the driver
And Schumacher in 2010 Abu Dhabi with Liuzzi?

CraigyMc

16,567 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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LocoBlade said:
CraigyMc said:
McLaren are at Navarra in Northern Spain.

I think the airport in the photo is likely to be Vitoria Airport, which is not at all far from the circuit.
Taken circa 2005 I suspect, the upsweep on those sidepods doesn't look current and it appears that various sponsors have been airbrushed out along the side of the truck
Except the truck is a volvo in the photo, rather than the Mercedes McLaren would have been using in 2005.
The photo is current. Whether the car it contains is the 2018 article or not is up for debate if you like.

budgie smuggler

5,428 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Vaud said:
And Schumacher in 2010 Abu Dhabi with Liuzzi?
Bloody hell I forgot about that one, yes exactly. Thought he'd gone straight into his head when I first saw it happen.

FourWheelDrift

88,822 posts

286 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Just looking at that overhead shot with the halo above the drivers hands, does this mean the disappearance of aggrieved drivers reactions manifested in a single digit wave now proving meaningless as the other driver won't see it?

^ The non-Vettel finger.

Vaud

51,002 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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budgie smuggler said:
Bloody hell I forgot about that one, yes exactly. Thought he'd gone straight into his head when I first saw it happen.
Me too.. I actually switched the TV off as I thought it was another Senna moment.

miniwill58

121 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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SF71H

Only low quality images from the stream so far.

N0ddie

381 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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miniwill58 said:


SF71H

Only low quality images from the stream so far.
Much longer than last years car?