Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

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FeelingLucky

1,092 posts

166 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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TonyToniTone said:
sparta6 said:
"Madman beats Hamilton"

There's a headline for the frothers
Seems an odd thing for a frother to post.
If not THE frother?

I sense the irony is strong in this one...

S600BSB

5,454 posts

108 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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I hope he doesn't. I would like to see Max win the championship this year, but I would rather he did it properly and in style.

Megaflow

9,527 posts

227 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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sparta6 said:
Megaflow said:
sparta6 said:
paulguitar said:
sparta6 said:
Statistically yes I agree.

But there's no doubting LH is desperate to win another wdc. You can smell his desperation. He craves approval and adoration.

Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"

MV seems to thrive on just the battles and race wins.
Even by your standards, this is a truly bizarre post.
Those are MV's words, not mine.
Max has said: “ LH is desperate to win another wdc. You can smell his desperation. He craves approval and adoration.”

Really? Have you got a link to that interview?
I see you're adding quotation marks where their wasn't any
nono

Max said "winning the championship won't change my life"
You said they were Max’s words, not yours. Now you are saying they are not. Make your mind up.

BigFatWombat

97 posts

62 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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“……LH is desperate to win another wdc…….”; F1 multiple world champion is driven and focused on winning shocker!


“Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"

MV seems to thrive on just the battles and race wins.”

Anyone racing in F1 who doesn’t want to win a wdc shouldn’t be there. If he’s only there for battles and race wins he should go stock car racing.

I’ve read some bullst on these threads about LH v MV but that just about takes the biscuit.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

64 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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S600BSB said:
I hope he doesn't. I would like to see Max win the championship this year, but I would rather he did it properly and in style.
Bit late for that!

S600BSB

5,454 posts

108 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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CustardOnChips said:
S600BSB said:
I hope he doesn't. I would like to see Max win the championship this year, but I would rather he did it properly and in style.
Bit late for that!
Not at all! Be fabulous to see the championship crown pass from Lewis to Max. Good for the sport to have a new champion too.

Jasandjules

70,061 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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BigFatWombat said:
“Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"
It is true, the way he drives it is clearly not important to him. I mean, if it was he'd try to deliberately crash into his rival at half the races, maybe force him off the road a few times and might even brake test his rival causing a collision......

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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S600BSB said:
CustardOnChips said:
S600BSB said:
I hope he doesn't. I would like to see Max win the championship this year, but I would rather he did it properly and in style.
Bit late for that!
Not at all! Be fabulous to see the championship crown pass from Lewis to Max. Good for the sport to have a new champion too.
Based on this seasons driving, the guy should be banned, not potentially a world champion kids use as a reference. Him winning will be a terrible thing for motorsport.

FIA campaign for road safety and getting all these young kids involved in the press conferences and grid activities negates those who say the influence on kids isn't relevant or driving standards are irrelevant. I would rather anyone but Max win the championship.

Next season is going to be a crash fest if they don't clamp down on Max antics. The only way it wont be is if Ros got it wrong and Red Bull built a rocket ship.

Gad-Westy

14,702 posts

215 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Jasandjules said:
BigFatWombat said:
“Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"
It is true, the way he drives it is clearly not important to him. I mean, if it was he'd try to deliberately crash into his rival at half the races, maybe force him off the road a few times and might even brake test his rival causing a collision......
What with Max not caring about being WDC and Christian not giving a flying f**k about WCC, it makes you wonder why any of them bother!

Sandpit Steve

10,593 posts

76 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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Does anyone remember the process by which Schumacher was strippped of his championship position in 1997? IIRC is was some time after the event.

The reason it got me thinking, is that the Sporting regulations concerning penalties (Article 47.3) allows the strewards to select a penalty from the list we all know - time penalties, grid penalties at this or the subsequent event, drive through penalties, and disqualification from the race.

There doesn’t appear to be the provision for docking of already-awarded championship points.

Is docking points something the stewards can find a reason for, under the disrepute rules of the ISC, or is it something that would have to end up at some FIA tribunal convened at a later date for the purpose?

Craig W

423 posts

161 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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Sandpit Steve said:
Does anyone remember the process by which Schumacher was strippped of his championship position in 1997? IIRC is was some time after the event.

The reason it got me thinking, is that the Sporting regulations concerning penalties (Article 47.3) allows the strewards to select a penalty from the list we all know - time penalties, grid penalties at this or the subsequent event, drive through penalties, and disqualification from the race.

There doesn’t appear to be the provision for docking of already-awarded championship points.

Is docking points something the stewards can find a reason for, under the disrepute rules of the ISC, or is it something that would have to end up at some FIA tribunal convened at a later date for the purpose?
This is what I am curious about. For instance, if Max just blatantly rammed Lewis off the road in a manner that left zero doubt it was intentional (I mean like literally steers into him the wrong way on a corner) then he wins. Even if he admitted that it was intentional afterwards, what repercussions could there be for the championship? Surely they wouldn't allow the result to stand?

sparta6

3,708 posts

102 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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Megaflow said:
sparta6 said:
Megaflow said:
sparta6 said:
paulguitar said:
sparta6 said:
Statistically yes I agree.

But there's no doubting LH is desperate to win another wdc. You can smell his desperation. He craves approval and adoration.

Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"

MV seems to thrive on just the battles and race wins.
Even by your standards, this is a truly bizarre post.
Those are MV's words, not mine.
Max has said: “ LH is desperate to win another wdc. You can smell his desperation. He craves approval and adoration.”

Really? Have you got a link to that interview?
I see you're adding quotation marks where their wasn't any
nono

Max said "winning the championship won't change my life"
You said they were Max’s words, not yours. Now you are saying they are not. Make your mind up.
Read my original post again and observe the position of MV's quote.

Let us know if you're still struggling

williamp

19,329 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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Craig W said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Does anyone remember the process by which Schumacher was strippped of his championship position in 1997? IIRC is was some time after the event.

The reason it got me thinking, is that the Sporting regulations concerning penalties (Article 47.3) allows the strewards to select a penalty from the list we all know - time penalties, grid penalties at this or the subsequent event, drive through penalties, and disqualification from the race.

There doesn’t appear to be the provision for docking of already-awarded championship points.

Is docking points something the stewards can find a reason for, under the disrepute rules of the ISC, or is it something that would have to end up at some FIA tribunal convened at a later date for the purpose?
This is what I am curious about. For instance, if Max just blatantly rammed Lewis off the road in a manner that left zero doubt it was intentional (I mean like literally steers into him the wrong way on a corner) then he wins. Even if he admitted that it was intentional afterwards, what repercussions could there be for the championship? Surely they wouldn't allow the result to stand?
Bringing the sport into disrepute?? Lot more weight then others...

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

48 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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I think for me in my limited viewing of all of this, more so end of years when all that is left to watch is F1, Max has already done enough to taint this title if he wins it.

He is and has been all of his career so far a fabulous talent but a monstrously dirty driver who I would not want to race against.

Vettel gets little credit for his titles really as he if you could almost give the trophy to Newey instead you would, Mercedes get most of Lewis's titles too in some eyes.

But this year is all about bully boy stuff, which is such a shame, he is under immense pressure you can see, but his self belief is just too strong, who does that remind you of?

MustangGT

11,714 posts

282 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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sparta6 said:
Read my original post again and observe the position of MV's quote.

Let us know if you're still struggling
Let me help you Sparta.

Your post was quoted in it's entirety, you then claimed it was Max's words not yours and did not specify a single part of it. We all know that Max said that one thing (although he was obviously lying). You very definitely implied he said everything to cover yourself from criticism.

MustangGT

11,714 posts

282 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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I think the FIA could easily lay charges of bringing the sport into disrepute against the following:

Marko and Horner for Red Bull
Max for his antics this year
Themselves for enabling Max this year

Of course they will not though.

sparta6

3,708 posts

102 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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MustangGT said:
sparta6 said:
Read my original post again and observe the position of MV's quote.

Let us know if you're still struggling
Let me help you Sparta.

Your post was quoted in it's entirety, you then claimed it was Max's words not yours and did not specify a single part of it. We all know that Max said that one thing (although he was obviously lying). You very definitely implied he said everything to cover yourself from criticism.
Allow me to assist you in return.

MV's quote was contained in quotation marks, accordingly.

Someone then decided to edit and add quotation marks to my original personal viewpoint. Shocking hehe


Frothers keep frothing

sparta6

3,708 posts

102 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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paulguitar said:
sparta6 said:
"Madman beats Hamilton"

There's a headline for the frothers
Indeed, you've clearly worked hard on that. wink
Kelvin McKenzie take note biggrin


Oilchange

8,538 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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sparta6 said:
Frothers keep frothing
grow up.

Megaflow

9,527 posts

227 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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MustangGT said:
sparta6 said:
Read my original post again and observe the position of MV's quote.

Let us know if you're still struggling
Let me help you Sparta.

Your post was quoted in it's entirety, you then claimed it was Max's words not yours and did not specify a single part of it. We all know that Max said that one thing (although he was obviously lying). You very definitely implied he said everything to cover yourself from criticism.
Thank you MustangGT.

Sparta, the only thing I am struggling to understand is how a troll like you still has not been banned.