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anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Teddy asked if it was weird that a company such as Rokit has no online/social presence.

You said that you knew companies that don't. I assumed you were talking about companies similar to Rokit, otherwise - what was your point? And how did it relate to Teddy's?
The question was "What's the biggest company you can find with no wiki entry?"

My answer was "I know some companies with multi billions $ profits who are completely unknown to most people and have zero online presence. Most of the seriously wealthy dont want anyone to know anything about them."

It's not my fault you messed that all up in your head to mean what you typed.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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jsf said:
I know some companies with multi billions $ profits who are completely unknown to most people and have zero online presence. Most of the seriously wealthy dont want anyone to know anything about them.
Yeah, but that's bullst when you offer $10m to be painted on the side of an F1 car. Rokit is one of those paint it bigger than it is jobs who have done a few shady deals with 3rd and 2nd world countries to flog a load of tat and for whatever reason hoped the cachet of F1 would give them opportunity to make more than they spent on the deal. Not much different to Storey and co.

Pretending they're elusive people making a fortune who support their low key activities by sponsoring a high profile F1 team, isn't cricket.

TheDeuce

22,603 posts

68 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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jsf said:
TheDeuce said:
Teddy asked if it was weird that a company such as Rokit has no online/social presence.

You said that you knew companies that don't. I assumed you were talking about companies similar to Rokit, otherwise - what was your point? And how did it relate to Teddy's?
The question was "What's the biggest company you can find with no wiki entry?"

My answer was "I know some companies with multi billions $ profits who are completely unknown to most people and have zero online presence. Most of the seriously wealthy dont want anyone to know anything about them."

It's not my fault you messed that all up in your head to mean what you typed.
It's cool, I'm actually ashamed at myself for bothering to comment. And to teddy's post above, yes it was a broad question posed.

Sorry guys - a lack of actual F1 to argue about has indeed turned me in to a pendant..

getmecoat

CallMeLegend

8,793 posts

212 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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rallycross said:
The caption should be '; Dad you are are a **nt = everyone says so!
In the 21 years I have been around WF1 & WAE I have always found Frank to be utterly charming, he always has time for a chat when out & about in the factory.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Pretending they're elusive people making a fortune who support their low key activities by sponsoring a high profile F1 team, isn't cricket.
Another one who cant read.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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TheDeuce said:
It's cool, I'm actually ashamed at myself for bothering to comment..

getmecoat
The most sensible thing you've posted in ages. laugh

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

69 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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TheDeuce said:
It's cool, I'm actually ashamed at myself for bothering to comment. And to teddy's post above, yes it was a broad question posed.

Sorry guys - a lack of actual F1 to argue about has indeed turned me in to a pendant..

getmecoat
you're anything but the pedant - you interpreted the question as it was intended, in light of the preceding comments, rather than focussing on the precise wording. We do need more of this, it's a discussion forum, not wikipedia.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
you're anything but the pedant - you interpreted the question as it was intended, in light of the preceding comments, rather than focussing on the precise wording. We do need more of this, it's a discussion forum, not wikipedia.
Jeez, you dont go to wikipedia for facts or precision do you?

C Lee Farquar

4,080 posts

218 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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There is more on wiki about Rokit than Mission Winnow smile

I've looked up some but have no idea who most of the sponsors are in F1.

Williams drawing a line under Rokit at least facilitates finding another sponsor/investor/partner/owner.

fulham911club

2,046 posts

244 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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jsf said:
No, they are companies you simply dont know anything about that are not listed as they are 100% privately owned. Plenty of them out there.

Those that are seeking brand recognition are different, but you didn't differentiate that when you made your comment about not having a wiki page.
Simple nonsense. Care to name one and I suspect many people have heard about them?

TheDeuce

22,603 posts

68 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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fulham911club said:
jsf said:
No, they are companies you simply dont know anything about that are not listed as they are 100% privately owned. Plenty of them out there.

Those that are seeking brand recognition are different, but you didn't differentiate that when you made your comment about not having a wiki page.
Simple nonsense. Care to name one and I suspect many people have heard about them?
When races don't run, this is the level of tedium...

Come on.

davidc1

1,556 posts

164 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Would have been very different if they would have approved newey a share in the team. Thet was a terrible decision that they have spent 20 years reflecting on.

TheDeuce

22,603 posts

68 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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davidc1 said:
Would have been very different if they would have approved newey a share in the team. Thet was a terrible decision that they have spent 20 years reflecting on.
No.... The problem is that they don't reflect on such decisions. That is sadly the story of Williams - they've been belligerent throughout. Doesn't really work in the modern world.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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TheDeuce said:
When races don't run, this is the level of tedium...

Come on.
I'm so bored today I created a video of a Rat with nunchucks hiding in my car. sillythumbup

2fast748

1,110 posts

197 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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SpudLink said:
25 Biggest Companies You’ve Never Heard Of...
https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/25-biggest-...

Just being helpful. smile
I've heard of a few of them but also to the list of unknown companies sponsoring F1 cars list I'd add crown favourite Pastor Maldonado's patrons - PDVSA. They were the Venezuelan government dept responsible for proving crude oil & gas to petrochemical companies to turn into whatever.

F1 is a big washing through which a lot of money goes.

TheDeuce

22,603 posts

68 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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jsf said:
I'm so bored today I created a video of a Rat with nunchucks hiding in my car. sillythumbup
Well at least post it - we're all bored too biggrin

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Well at least post it - we're all bored too biggrin
It's extremely rubbish, made for my little nephew for a laugh.

Adrian W

14,076 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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I watched the F1 show on Sky last night with Clare Williams going on and on about how committed the Williams family are to the team and the business, if true and the interweb estimates of their net worth, surely the Williams family should be putting their own hands in their pockets, unless of course if maybe they are not quite as confident in their business plan as she says..

C Lee Farquar

4,080 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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They are not paying a share dividend, so they're only taking their wages.

TheDeuce

22,603 posts

68 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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C Lee Farquar said:
They are not paying a share dividend, so they're only taking their wages.
What else could they do? Not really optional when there's no profit to go into the shareholders fund = nothing for dividend.

The only vaguely interesting news this week is that Williams latest accounts show they have taken on a very high interest commercial loan package in order to see out 2020. Which isn't exactly helpful as a going concern.