F1 Past

[Eric Mc]

It was traces of lead in the water that caused Tyrrell to be found out.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

It was traces of lead in the water that caused Tyrrell to be found out.

So basically had the water but put lead in the tank as well to make sure the car was legal.

Then remove the lead before the start of the race and slipping it back in at the end?

I remember in my Karting days a local businessman's son was doing very well against some top drivers.

He had the best of the best equipment and was a bit full of himself in the process. It's understandable to be like this in a way but he just loved to make a point of how good he was which did annoy a number of others.

Anyway after a race he was about to be weighed and his father/mechanic handing him back his helmet. It was discovered to have a large piece of lead hidden in it under his gloves. Not sure if someone knew or if it had fallen out.

He was banned for a year but never returned.

Perhaps if he had not been so cocky other would not have watch him so closely.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 18th April 15:59

[dr_gn]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Eric Mc said:

It was traces of lead in the water that caused Tyrrell to be found out.

So basically had the water but put lead in the tank as well to make sure the car was legal.

Then remove the lead before the start of the race and slipping it back in at the end?

I remember in my Karting days a local businessman's son was doing very well against some top drivers.

He had the best of the best equipment and was a bit full of himself in the process. It's understandable to be like this in a way but he just loved to make a point of how good he was which did annoy a number of others.

Anyway after a race he was about to be weighed and his father/mechanic handing him back his helmet. It was discovered to have a large piece of lead hidden in it under his gloves. Not sure if someone knew or if it had fallen out.

He was banned for a year but never returned.

Perhaps if he had not been so cocky other would not have watch him so closely.

Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Wednesday 18th April 15:59

To avoid any more confusion, it's all here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_Racing

[anonymous-user]

dr_gn said:

To avoid any more confusion, it's all here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_Racing

Thanks for that.

Helps a lot

[RichB]

Eric Mc said:

It was traces of lead in the water that caused Tyrrell to be found out.

So it was heavy water.

[anonymous-user]

Chaos at the end of the 1975 British Grand Prix

Even looks like a spectator was trying to help and got hit. 1:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mXWqLjGd8

[Eric Mc]

The good old days.

[anonymous-user]

Murray meets Mr Ferrari in 1987

Found this very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-cI2EhFwaw

[Eric Mc]

Interesting to see actual TV footage of the 1958 British GP. I wonder where that is lurking these days.

Also, I walked past John Barnard's old site at Shalford only last week in a ramble along the Wey Navigation. The building is still there but Ferrari have long since departed.

Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 18th April 22:44

[anonymous-user]

Not F1 but it's Monaco and F1 drivers. Pretty funny.

Love the honesty of Berger.

Jeremy Clarkson's Motorworld | Monaco S02E01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgxoG5-NVVA

[Eric Mc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Not F1 but it's Monaco and F1 drivers. Pretty funny.

Love the honesty of Berger.

Jeremy Clarkson's Motorworld | Monaco S02E01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgxoG5-NVVA

Without looking, I know the clip you are talking about . It's where Berger says. "And do you want the real reason we live here, tax!"

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

Interesting to see actual TV footage of the 1958 British GP. I wonder where that is lurking these days.

That would be good one to find.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

Without looking, I know the clip you are talking about . It's where Berger says. "And do you want the real reason we live here, tax!"

Spot on.

Berger is a funny man. He made Senna smile and lighten up so he must have been

[anonymous-user]

Stirling Moss interview BBC

Amazing man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_3Im5KRlE

[Eric Mc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Spot on.

Berger is a funny man. He made Senna smile and lighten up so he must have been

He filled his car boot with rotting fish once. Senna's wasn't as amused as Berger was

[dr_gn]

This might have been linked before, documentary following Eddie Irvine:

http://www.veoh.com/m/watch.php?v=v1213694YmZrwMWY

Some bits are priceless, like the letter from the fan who was asking if he’d like him to shoot Hakkinen’s tyres with a shotgun.

Overall...what a lucky sod to get to drive for Ferrari at that time.

[Halmyre]

Eric Mc said:

There were the Brabhams which had adjustable ride height so they could pass the minimum ground clearance test when under scrutiny but drop below the "legal" level when running out on the circuit.

That was at a time when the governing body could not come up with a definitive decision on what was legal or not, much to the teams' annoyance. Brabham put a massive lever on the ride-height adjustment switch, trying to goad them into action.

Not a cheat as such, but one team at Le Mans had a car in the pits with a jammed starter motor that, under regulations, could not be changed for a new one. A bucket of water was fetched, the team removed the starter and dropped it into the bucket. A race official ran up to ask what was going on. "We are cooling down the starter, it is red hot" said the team boss. The starter was refitted and the official went away happy. Some time later the official was needing to wash his hands and came upon the bucket. Putting his hands in, he felt something at the bottom and pulled out...a starter motor...

[Eric Mc]

Hiding bits in buckets of liquid is an old trick. I've heard gear ration cogs were sometimes switched in this way too.

[anonymous-user]

Halmyre said:

That was at a time when the governing body could not come up with a definitive decision on what was legal or not, much to the teams' annoyance. Brabham put a massive lever on the ride-height adjustment switch, trying to goad them into action.

Not a cheat as such, but one team at Le Mans had a car in the pits with a jammed starter motor that, under regulations, could not be changed for a new one. A bucket of water was fetched, the team removed the starter and dropped it into the bucket. A race official ran up to ask what was going on. "We are cooling down the starter, it is red hot" said the team boss. The starter was refitted and the official went away happy. Some time later the official was needing to wash his hands and came upon the bucket. Putting his hands in, he felt something at the bottom and pulled out...a starter motor...

Brilliant.

Love these stories.

[anonymous-user]

dr_gn said:

This might have been linked before, documentary following Eddie Irvine:

http://www.veoh.com/m/watch.php?v=v1213694YmZrwMWY

Some bits are priceless, like the letter from the fan who was asking if he’d like him to shoot Hakkinen’s tyres with a shotgun.

Overall...what a lucky sod to get to drive for Ferrari at that time.

It must be something about the Irish but I have always like Eddie Irvine. Just says what he thinks "which mostly is spot on" and gives great stories his time in F1.

Typical Eddie being interviewed

Ted clearly doesn't like him but perhaps he is just jealous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLSrF6z9jls

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 19th April 12:40