The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*

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Deesee

8,501 posts

85 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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With the sprint races, amus published a decent Bernie Ecclestone idea yesterday, give points for the sprint race (that sets the grid for Sunday), if you take the points say 15 for first, 14 for second etc, you move back on the grid by that amount of positions, you could of course keep pole ( or 5th) and not take the points.. would have probably worked better in the refuelling era, but might help with the mixed up grid and approach to this mini race.

Flooble

5,565 posts

102 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Does actually sound like a good way to mix things up - the problem with that sort of thing is it is either too simplistic and easy for the strategists to game, or you end up with the viewers being unable to fathom who is doing well ("And Verstappen is in the lead! However, as he finished the Sprint in 3rd and elected to take the points, but didn't take superpole, and has just done the fastest lap while wearing one glove, with 50kgs of success ballast and on the option tyres that means [long pause, whirring noises] he is actually third on points"

CanAm

9,387 posts

274 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Oh for the Dutch GP of 1961!

HighwayToHull

7,803 posts

180 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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CanAm said:
Oh for the Dutch GP of 1961!
Hear hear!



(Although I'm pretty sure 95% of the people who read that had no idea what it meant without having to look it up.)

SpudLink

6,091 posts

194 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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HighwayToHull said:
CanAm said:
Oh for the Dutch GP of 1961!
Hear hear!



(Although I'm pretty sure 95% of the people who read that had no idea what it meant without having to look it up.)
Give us young ‘uns a clue.

CanAm

9,387 posts

274 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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SpudLink said:
HighwayToHull said:
CanAm said:
Oh for the Dutch GP of 1961!
Hear hear!



(Although I'm pretty sure 95% of the people who read that had no idea what it meant without having to look it up.)
Give us young ‘uns a clue.
It was the first (only?) Championship F1 race where every starter finished and nobody made a pit stop.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

69 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Guanyu Zhou has won the Asian f3 championship. Does he have superlicence points for if/when Alonso explodes?

Shame sky F1 can't devote time to F1 hopefuls campaining a single seat formula held at UK tv friendly times for live transmission during a time the fans are all starved of racing and climbing the walls but I guess its essential that those repeated old press conferences and practice sessions be aired.

TheDeuce

22,607 posts

68 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
Guanyu Zhou has won the Asian f3 championship. Does he have superlicence points for if/when Alonso explodes?

Shame sky F1 can't devote time to F1 hopefuls campaining a single seat formula held at UK tv friendly times for live transmission during a time the fans are all starved of racing and climbing the walls but I guess its essential that those repeated old press conferences and practice sessions be aired.
We already have F2/F3 on Sky and so few on here seem to ever bother watching it sadly.

As for Alonso flipping out... When Cyril was politely told his services were no longer required, I remember thinking at the time that it's never a great sign about how confident a team are over their new season challenger when the boss gets booted in the off season. If that's the case, I expect Alonso will have said something terrible about the car by the end of pre-season testing... He's going to be judged as a returning, mature driver and I can't believe he of all people will keep his trap shut if he feels the car is going to be making him look bad upon his return to F1. I really doubt the car will be able to worry Aston or McLaren, which is bound to be a frustrating situation for Fred - especially if McLaren are substantially ahead.

I've never warmed to Alonso really but his re-introduction in the already tightly contested midfield this season is certainly going to be interesting smile

Deesee

8,501 posts

85 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Teddy, it was streamed FOC by the promoter & FIA on you tube.


Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

69 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Deesee said:
Teddy, it was streamed FOC by the promoter & FIA on you tube.
damn, but thanks.

If its free all the more reason for sky to pick it up lol.


Deesee

8,501 posts

85 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
Deesee said:
Teddy, it was streamed FOC by the promoter & FIA on you tube.
damn, but thanks.

If its free all the more reason for sky to pick it up lol.
It’s still up if you want to watch!

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

69 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Deesee said:
It’s still up if you want to watch!
nah some bugger posted a spoiler

Deesee

8,501 posts

85 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
Deesee said:
It’s still up if you want to watch!
nah some bugger posted a spoiler
biglaugh if you knew the venue you’d switch off anyway.. thumbup

DanielSan

18,868 posts

169 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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TheDeuce said:
We already have F2/F3 on Sky and so few on here seem to ever bother watching it sadly.

As for Alonso flipping out... When Cyril was politely told his services were no longer required, I remember thinking at the time that it's never a great sign about how confident a team are over their new season challenger when the boss gets booted in the off season. If that's the case, I expect Alonso will have said something terrible about the car by the end of pre-season testing... He's going to be judged as a returning, mature driver and I can't believe he of all people will keep his trap shut if he feels the car is going to be making him look bad upon his return to F1. I really doubt the car will be able to worry Aston or McLaren, which is bound to be a frustrating situation for Fred - especially if McLaren are substantially ahead.

I've never warmed to Alonso really but his re-introduction in the already tightly contested midfield this season is certainly going to be interesting smile
He had talking the car down covered last year when he was publically saying the team need to put all focus on the 22 car...

vaud

51,008 posts

157 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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DanielSan said:
TheDeuce said:
We already have F2/F3 on Sky and so few on here seem to ever bother watching it sadly.

As for Alonso flipping out... When Cyril was politely told his services were no longer required, I remember thinking at the time that it's never a great sign about how confident a team are over their new season challenger when the boss gets booted in the off season. If that's the case, I expect Alonso will have said something terrible about the car by the end of pre-season testing... He's going to be judged as a returning, mature driver and I can't believe he of all people will keep his trap shut if he feels the car is going to be making him look bad upon his return to F1. I really doubt the car will be able to worry Aston or McLaren, which is bound to be a frustrating situation for Fred - especially if McLaren are substantially ahead.

I've never warmed to Alonso really but his re-introduction in the already tightly contested midfield this season is certainly going to be interesting smile
He had talking the car down covered last year when he was publically saying the team need to put all focus on the 22 car...
I forget what the gossip was, but I recall that Cyril leaving was for a different reason.

Flooble

5,565 posts

102 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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DanielSan said:
He had talking the car down covered last year when he was publically saying the team need to put all focus on the 22 car...
It'll be funny if they end up pushing the 21 regs back again and Alonso is 42 before they get their "new" car. He will be vying with Mansell for oldest podium finisher.

TheDeuce

22,607 posts

68 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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vaud said:
DanielSan said:
TheDeuce said:
We already have F2/F3 on Sky and so few on here seem to ever bother watching it sadly.

As for Alonso flipping out... When Cyril was politely told his services were no longer required, I remember thinking at the time that it's never a great sign about how confident a team are over their new season challenger when the boss gets booted in the off season. If that's the case, I expect Alonso will have said something terrible about the car by the end of pre-season testing... He's going to be judged as a returning, mature driver and I can't believe he of all people will keep his trap shut if he feels the car is going to be making him look bad upon his return to F1. I really doubt the car will be able to worry Aston or McLaren, which is bound to be a frustrating situation for Fred - especially if McLaren are substantially ahead.

I've never warmed to Alonso really but his re-introduction in the already tightly contested midfield this season is certainly going to be interesting smile
He had talking the car down covered last year when he was publically saying the team need to put all focus on the 22 car...
I forget what the gossip was, but I recall that Cyril leaving was for a different reason.
I assumed it's likely more to do with the PU side. Ending with zero customers is hardly a positive for 'renault power' marketing.

I do think that even that would be overlooked if he had delivered a truly awesome midfield challenger for this season - which is kinda why I expect he hasn't, because he has been booted.

In fairness to Cyril, I think the Renault F1 project was a bit lacklustre in terms of funding, especially with regard to PU development. Its certainly not all his fault, but he has to go - for the same reasons they've rebranded.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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TheDeuce said:
I do think that even that would be overlooked if he had delivered a truly awesome midfield challenger for this season - which is kinda why I expect he hasn't, because he has been booted.
What on earth are you talking about. laugh

CanAm

9,387 posts

274 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Flooble said:
It'll be funny if they end up pushing the 21 regs back again and Alonso is 42 before they get their "new" car. He will be vying with Mansell for oldest podium finisher.
Mansell wasn't the oldest by a long way.

TheDeuce

22,607 posts

68 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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jsf said:
TheDeuce said:
I do think that even that would be overlooked if he had delivered a truly awesome midfield challenger for this season - which is kinda why I expect he hasn't, because he has been booted.
What on earth are you talking about. laugh
Well they're going to have a vague idea if they have a weapon this season aren't they?? If they thought they were headed towards battling and beating the rest of midfield they wouldn't disrupt the team by sacking the TP.

Hence, I suspect they don't have very much for 21'. If you disagree and you have time to spare between laughing at others opinions, I'd love you to contribute your own wink