The Official 2017 Abu Dhabi GP Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 Abu Dhabi GP Thread **Spoilers**

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l354uge

2,895 posts

123 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Vaud said:
London424 said:
No chance of Europe for races in November. It’ll need to be a warm weather track.
Singapore might be a good one, but I thInk A-D spend a lot of money to retain it.
Just host the final at the turkey track and pretend it's in Abu Dhabi. Shouldn't be hard, just fill it with lots of fake people and pretty lights..

8V085

670 posts

79 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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London424 said:
No chance of Europe for races in November. It’ll need to be a warm weather track.
Bring back the Long Beach GP, F1 edition.

Vaud

50,922 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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8V085 said:
Bring back the Long Beach GP, F1 edition.
Not a good time zone for majority of f1 viewers. Needs to be gmt +/- a few hours or a Middle East night race.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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ash73 said:
The most boring race of the year and a crap track, I almost forgot it was on.

Not a vintage year by any standards.

It flattered to deceive. Some good races early in the year.

Croft says next year will be a good one........

...if Ferrari improve, Mercedes don't and RBR get a decent engine. We might have 6 cars chasing the wins.


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Until they get to grips with the Ferrari love in by the sport they will continue to suck money out of it that could go to other teams that actually embrace F1. Didn't realise just how fked up it is when I heard they will not deal with the media at the weekends. They should be subject to the same rules as everyone else including co-operating with the media .


Vaud

50,922 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Until they get to grips with the Ferrari love in by the sport they will continue to suck money out of it that could go to other teams that actually embrace F1. Didn't realise just how fked up it is when I heard they will not deal with the media at the weekends. They should be subject to the same rules as everyone else including co-operating with the media .
But how do you possibly enforce it? Too subjective...

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Vaud said:
But how do you possibly enforce it? Too subjective...
For a start of they should give media access into the garages as all the other teams do willingly.

Vaud

50,922 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
For a start of they should give media access into the garages as all the other teams do willingly.
Ok, what happens next? Every comment from the team is a canned comment, “it’s a beautiful race we are glad to be here, the racing is magnificent”

You can’t enforce access - and more importantly, you can’t enforce quality interaction with the team, which is the missing component.

HustleRussell

24,795 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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I say if Ferrari want to be pricks, let 'em. They're cutting their nose off to spite their face IMO considering F1 is a marketing exercise, and all the other teams are dressing their drivers up like business cards and making them participate in all the press stuff, speaking to the press, being hospitable etc etc.

It shows a determination / desperation in Ferrari , creates a mystique about the team, adds controversy, and their performance seems to be increasing all round so I'd be happy if they kept their closed door policy.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Vaud said:
Ok, what happens next? Every comment from the team is a canned comment, “it’s a beautiful race we are glad to be here, the racing is magnificent”

You can’t enforce access - and more importantly, you can’t enforce quality interaction with the team, which is the missing component.
Mercedes don't have an issue nor do Red Bull and Mercedes have just handed Ferrari their arse on a plate. Ferrari are not F1 although they would have you believe they are.

Vaud

50,922 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Mercedes don't have an issue nor do Red Bull and Mercedes have just handed Ferrari their arse on a plate. Ferrari are not F1 although they would have you believe they are.
I don’t disagree.

My point was that you can’t enforce it.

thegreenhell

15,831 posts

221 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Any media outlet that feels shunned by them should play them at there own game and stop reporting about them. They could still talk about the drivers of the red cars, but how about a whole race weekend where nobody says the F word, no pictures of red cars appear in any print or digital media, and no stories about the team get published. So what if Seb won the race in a red car, let's talk about Mercedes instead. At least Toto and Niki like to talk to the media, so they get the airtime. The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about, as they say.

You won't get all the media in on it, but if enough did how long before the shareholders and sponsors got concerned about the reduced media profile of the team?

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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HustleRussell said:
Worst thing about the race for me was the terrible camerawork, they managed to make the cars look so slow and unspectacular.
The camera angles seem worse than a few years ago, plus limited on board today as well. Is the basic sky feed using the same cameras?

Ashtray83

573 posts

170 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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The new Logo really reminds me a lot of the force India one now

Mr Tidy

22,776 posts

129 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Dull...but they're at least keeping the lack of excitement and energy on track by having a Mumford and sons concert hehe
Too right, Mumford & Sons sounds like the sort of sh*te they play in an Irish bar to get you to go home while they turn the
lights right up - all a bit of a fiddle (or has the fiddler quit)?

Mr Tidy

22,776 posts

129 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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l354uge said:
Who the hell watches this bore fest and thinks "you know what will fix this? A new logo"
Nobody, but if LH had half the talent of MS he would have slowed down and somehow found a way to stick SV into the Armco to get his team-mate 2nd place in the WDC - I would have loved that! laugh

(LH why didn't you, it's not like SV is your best mate - especially after Baku)!

Mr Tidy

22,776 posts

129 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Ferrari already cashing in on merchandise. smile
Well of course they were - didn't you see "Ferrari World" behind the circuit at any point today? It looks bigger than the F1 track FFS!

Mr Tidy

22,776 posts

129 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Not impressed by Steve Jones - he turned up clueless and hasn't really gained much knowledge (although he did underline how much of a tw*t EJ is regarding wheel attachment) but when he has DC, MW and SW on the team he talks over them (gobby is my polite description)!

Mind you in a couple of years it won't matter anyway as it will all be Pay to View so he'll need to find alternative employment and I won't be watching F1 then, because it won't be good enough to justify the stupid price Sky will want. (I'll get the results on the web). laugh

I hope you are paying attention Mr Bratches! Viewer numbers are likely to drop significantly, and I certainly wouldn't ever consider trying to get to Silverstone for F1 (especially at their prices) so attendances are only going to decrease.

It may be great to post everything live to tw*tfarce,etc., but surely that just makes people not bother with the Pay to View or physical attendance options?

suffolk009

5,520 posts

167 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Vaud said:
London424 said:
No chance of Europe for races in November. It’ll need to be a warm weather track.
Singapore might be a good one, but I thInk A-D spend a lot of money to retain it.
Kyalami?

Could be a bit difficult politically. But this is F1, so they'd just shrug it off.

p1stonhead

25,799 posts

169 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Surprised to see such a statement from Brundle to be honest. Actually saying it was rubbish.