Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

[jjones]

sparta6 said:

Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"

MV seems to thrive on just the battles and race wins.

He also said "The world championship is what I am here for."

[vdn]

Megaflow said:

MustangGT said:

sparta6 said:

Read my original post again and observe the position of MV's quote.

Let us know if you're still struggling

Let me help you Sparta.

Your post was quoted in it's entirety, you then claimed it was Max's words not yours and did not specify a single part of it. We all know that Max said that one thing (although he was obviously lying). You very definitely implied he said everything to cover yourself from criticism.

Thank you MustangGT.

Sparta, the only thing I am struggling to understand is how a troll like you still has not been banned.

I get the feeling he has been a few times - never on my request I must add.

[paulguitar]

jjones said:

sparta6 said:

Meanwhile MV has already stated "winning the championship won't change my life"

MV seems to thrive on just the battles and race wins.

He also said "The world championship is what I am here for."

Any modern driver who's reached F1 and claims the WDC isn't a massive priority is surely simply lying. They wouldn't have got that far otherwise.

[vdn]

Also, what is it that they're there for if not to win.



Max is just bullstting as usual.

[kambites]

Siao said:

But the fact that the pit stops were "questioned" by other teams and things were changed, !

Were they, if so by which team? I thought (although I could very easily be wrong) the changes came about as a result of one to many wheels falling off after pit stops.

[ch37]

Max has a total of 28 penalty points (active and expired), the most of any driver since the system was introduced.

Remember not so long ago Max and Christian 'proved' they were not dirty by showing the penalty points? The two RB drivers now jointly second top the table of active points with 7 each (with an Alpha Tauri driver top for good measure).

[vdn]

ch37 said:

Max has a total of 28 penalty points (active and expired), the most of any driver since the system was introduced.

Remember not so long ago Max and Christian 'proved' they were not dirty by showing the penalty points? The two RB drivers now jointly second top the table of active points with 7 each (with an Alpha Tauri driver top for good measure).

You couldn't make it up

[Mach]

Wills2 said:

Unless Lewis can get pole and drive off into the distance, I expect a coming together that will be instigated by Max, if Lewis is leading and Max chasing I fully expect him to fully send it into a corner with no hope of making it round to take Lewis out.

This time it's do or die for Max and he's been ramping up the antics as the races are ticked off, he added brake checking to his tactics last weekend along side the usual yield or we crash cornering strategy, I think this time it'll be a straight crash if he can engineer it, like he did at Monza.

This

MV is a cheat

Those trying to justify his behaviour really are tragic

He is a disaster for the sport, nothing less.

[vdn]

If Max wins, fairly, I think most people will think 'fair enough'. If he wins in the manner we are all concerned about, then it'll always be a talking point and it'll not do him any favours in the respect / evolution as a driver aspects. But I'm not sure that the likes of Max / Jos are bothered about that. Financially, it'll be great for them either way.

My gut is that either Lewis wins fair and square or Max wins by employing is crap driving tactics.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and see Max win by superior speed and racecraft... but on the evidence so far this year...

[ddom]

Mach said:

This

MV is a cheat

Those trying to justify his behaviour really are tragic

He is a disaster for the sport, nothing less.

Viewing figures say you’re wrong

[Mach]

ddom said:

Viewing figures say you’re wrong

Ah bless, you are the definition of the tragic

[ddom]

Mach said:

Ah bless, you are the definition of the tragic

As you are deluded, in thinking the sport gives two sts what you think. Do you believe this global entity caters for a few nerds on PH

[Carlososos]

ddom said:

Mach said:

Ah bless, you are the definition of the tragic

As you are deluded, in thinking the sport gives two sts what you think. Do you believe this global entity caters for a few nerds on PH

Forgetting your loyal customers and going after new fickle ones is normally a bad move in the long run

[PhilAsia]

ch37 said:

Max has a total of 28 penalty points (active and expired), the most of any driver since the system was introduced.

Remember not so long ago Max and Christian 'proved' they were not dirty by showing the penalty points? The two RB drivers now jointly second top the table of active points with 7 each (with an Alpha Tauri driver top for good measure).

I checked that "proof" at the time Max and Christian offered it up and -lo and behold - Max was the driver that had "THE most of any driver since the system was introduced" even then. (checkable bks, just like most of their bks. They understand their rabid audience drink in the bks and never have the intelligence to check anything)

[PhilAsia]

vdn said:

If Max wins, fairly, I think most people will think 'fair enough'. If he wins in the manner we are all concerned about, then it'll always be a talking point and it'll not do him any favours in the respect / evolution as a driver aspects. But I'm not sure that the likes of Max / Jos are bothered about that. Financially, it'll be great for them either way.

My gut is that either Lewis wins fair and square or Max wins by employing is crap driving tactics.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and see Max win by superior speed and racecraft... but on the evidence so far this year...

DITTO! No problem with a great racer winning, whether it is Max or Lewis - I don't think most avid fans of the sport feel any different either.

I think there probably was a time this season that the majority of fair-minded people had a balance swing in favour of Lewis, when previously they would have praised either driver for their racecraft and subsequent WDC title.

Hoping for a clean race and a great end to the season.

[Fast and Spurious]

ddom said:

Mach said:

This

MV is a cheat

Those trying to justify his behaviour really are tragic

He is a disaster for the sport, nothing less.

Viewing figures say you’re wrong

Exactly, this whole thing is the best thing in F1 for years, I stopped watching the races about 4 years ago, but this battle has really got me into it again.

[aterribleusername]

Carlososos said:

Forgetting your loyal customers and going after new fickle ones is normally a bad move in the long run

Hopefully as Liberty is American they will look at the pain NASCAR has gone through since it forgot the core supporters before making the same mistakes.

[PhilAsia]

aterribleusername said:

Carlososos said:

Forgetting your loyal customers and going after new fickle ones is normally a bad move in the long run

Hopefully as Liberty is American they will look at the pain NASCAR has gone through since it forgot the core supporters before making the same mistakes.

They will likely ride whatever wave of viewing figures that come their way. The new Cartman "I'm stupider than ewe" audience love smashes, crashes and petulant pouting and have ramped up the viewing figures and $$$.

We had the SchMACKER years that eventually saw his shenanigans risen above by clean racers. We are just going to have to trust that each driver takes it in turns in 2022 not to buckle to Max's (newer, improved and even worse) ".....or we collide" manoeuvres and FIRMLY put a stop to his unsportsmanlike behavior asap. The guy needs some manners.

I won't hold my breath.

[S600BSB]

Fast and Spurious said:

ddom said:

Mach said:

This

MV is a cheat

Those trying to justify his behaviour really are tragic

He is a disaster for the sport, nothing less.

Viewing figures say you’re wrong

Exactly, this whole thing is the best thing in F1 for years, I stopped watching the races about 4 years ago, but this battle has really got me into it again.

Ditto. Even my kids are watching it again. It's fabulous to have a proper competition for the championship. Even better that it has gone to the final race of the season. Max is fantastic for the sport - just like Lewis was before him. Looking forward to a great race from the pair of them.

[paulguitar]

S600BSB said:

Ditto. Even my kids are watching it again. It's fabulous to have a proper competition for the championship. Even better that it has gone to the final race of the season. Max is fantastic for the sport - just like Lewis was before him. Looking forward to a great race from the pair of them.

I thought this was a fantastic season until Brazil, and then, much worse, last weekend. I actually thought of the last race as being embarrassing for F1, which is, after all, supposed to be the peak of motorsport, Vertapppen's performance there was the sort of thing that even at a club event would have been wholly unacceptable.

I certainly agree it's been great to have had a battle across the season for the title, however, I find it disappointing that we've got one of the protagonists with a demonstrable willingness to try to win by ignoring long-established basic racing rules. I really, really hope that doesn't lead to unpleasantness this weekend, but I think that's by no means guaranteed.