Official 2024 Monaco Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[asfault]

Piginapoke said:

Jordie Barretts sock said:

paulguitar said:

g4ry13 said:

Piginapoke said:

Going to be an interesting race for a change!

Why's that?

I suppose any race that is not the same winner is a novelty these last two years. It will almost certainly be very boring tomorrow though.

Hardly any difference here though. A red car instead of a blue one up the front. It'll still be a dreary procession with Croft screaming trying to make it sound exciting. Which it won't be.

Cheer up you lot, 2 potential new winners on the front row and the dominant car on the 3rd 9th row.

Fixed that for you

[Supersam83]

TheDeuce said:

Actually... Leclerc is one of the few in recent years that has made passes at Monaco. Can piastri do the same on leclerc!? It's a big ask.

Probably far safer to wait for leclerc to crash out and then take the place

Piastri doesn’t need to overtake him on track.

All Piastri needs to do is come in to pit first and use the fresher tyres to put in some fast laps while Leclerc controls the pace at the front.

When Leclerc pits then Piastri will get past him…

Remember Singapore 2019.

[shirt]

Piastri is by no means second rate but I don’t think his racecraft is there yet and he’ll be looking at his mirrors more than he should rather than maintaining pace with Charles and, more importantly, being able to put the times in when needed on worn tyres for an undercut to work.

[Gad-Westy]

Supersam83 said:

Piastri doesn’t need to overtake him on track.

All Piastri needs to do is come in to pit first and use the fresher tyres to put in some fast laps while Leclerc controls the pace at the front.

When Leclerc pits then Piastri will get past him…

Remember Singapore 2019.

Hugely dependent on there being a gap to drop into though. It would suit CLC to dictate a slow pace to avoid that.

[Sandpit Steve]

Leithen said:

Looks like both HAAS cars might be in the st.

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-d...

They should count themselves lucky the scrutineer found it today, and they didn’t race like that tomorrow.

Surely there’s an engineer whose job it is to check the wing setup, including the size of the flap opening? This is the same offence that saw LH kicked out of qualifying in Brazil 2021.

[eps]

I guess Sainz isn't getting a penalty for blocking? Albon I think it was?

[Jordie Barretts sock]

eps said:

I guess Sainz isn't getting a penalty for blocking? Albon I think it was?

And Albon blocked him.

Don't think anything will happen.

Haas, they'll start at the back. Sponsors innit.

[Sandpit Steve]

Just catching up after life intervened earlier today, got home just as qualifying finished, so had to switch off the phone and put down the iPad to make sure I didn’t inadvertently find out the result before watching.

Amazed to see the session run through without a single incident, so credit where it’s due to the world’s best drivers that no-one binned it. Amazingly close as well, with well under a second covering the whole field.

Charles has been on the pace all weekend, and well deserved the pole, but after his terrible run of luck at his home race, I just hope the team don’t give him a comedy pitstop tomorrow.

[TheDeuce]

Supersam83 said:

TheDeuce said:

Actually... Leclerc is one of the few in recent years that has made passes at Monaco. Can piastri do the same on leclerc!? It's a big ask.

Probably far safer to wait for leclerc to crash out and then take the place

Piastri doesn’t need to overtake him on track.

All Piastri needs to do is come in to pit first and use the fresher tyres to put in some fast laps while Leclerc controls the pace at the front.

When Leclerc pits then Piastri will get past him…

Remember Singapore 2019.

That's a great idea - we could call it an 'undercut' !?

But in Monaco!? You're on fresher tyres but out into a train of cars again, you can't make headway. CLC will drive off in front sufficient to cover off any such gain Piastri could realistically make if he pitted first and his engineer will make sure that safe gap is maintained.

Anything can happen of course, no need to entirely lose hope.. But statistically CLC has already won.

[Derek Smith]

TheDeuce said:

asfault said:

honda_exige said:

TheDeuce said:

732NM said:

zsdom said:

Where did Lewis’ pace go

Car just isn't quick enough.

I think I read that George has updates Lewis doesn't have too.

Which is fair enough, Lewis is buggering off so...

Lewis chose not to run the updates, supposedly as they have no spares so damaging it in Quali means pitlane start as no identical parts to hand.

ready made excuse.
goerge beats him, must be the upgrades

It's not an excuse, he actually doesn't have the updates

Also, he didn't use the lack of upgrade as an excuse for his 0.08 deficit to Russell. It's only mentioned by the abnormal suspects. I'll join you in a

[carlo996]

Piginapoke said:

Cheer up you lot, 2 potential new winners on the front row and the dominant car on the 3rd row.

RB have been struggling all weekend and were never predicted to be at the front this weekend. They are not 'dominant' at Monaco 2024.

[paulguitar]

carlo996 said:

Piginapoke said:

Cheer up you lot, 2 potential new winners on the front row and the dominant car on the 3rd row.

RB have been struggling all weekend and were never predicted to be at the front this weekend. They are not 'dominant' at Monaco 2024.

I suspect Mr Poke refers to the last two years, not the last two days.

[carlo996]

paulguitar said:

carlo996 said:

Piginapoke said:

Cheer up you lot, 2 potential new winners on the front row and the dominant car on the 3rd row.

RB have been struggling all weekend and were never predicted to be at the front this weekend. They are not 'dominant' at Monaco 2024.

I suspect Mr Poke refers to the last two years, not the last two days.

Yes, it was a weak point to make. Glad you agree.

[isaldiri]

Piginapoke said:

Most of that is due to Mercedes and then Red Bull domination. Put him in a leading car where he's not having take so many risks and he'll be just fine

Have to disagree there. leclerc imo and so far anyway makes too many mistakes both with and without pressure. And he's been far too easy to push around on track when fighting for position. He's bloody quick but in terms of being a solid top class racer.....don't think he's shown he's really there in F1.

[TheDeuce]

isaldiri said:

Piginapoke said:

Most of that is due to Mercedes and then Red Bull domination. Put him in a leading car where he's not having take so many risks and he'll be just fine

Have to disagree there. leclerc imo and so far anyway makes too many mistakes both with and without pressure. And he's been far too easy to push around on track when fighting for position. He's bloody quick but in terms of being a solid top class racer.....don't think he's shown he's really there in F1.

I have to disagree too PIAP.

It's true, CLC does make unforced errors. IE, totally unforced when the only pressure is the pressure to not throw away an advantage, which isn't a useful trait!

In fairness he's probably fast enough to be a WDC if he had a title winning car and team, despite the errors - but if a team had such a car to offer a driver, they'd likely look for a driver that was a tad more consistent..

[TheDeuce]

Both Haas DQ'd - unsurprisingly.

It's always amateur hour at Haas: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/haas-dr...

[Derek Smith]

Blib said:

Lewis' interview was interesting. He's beginning to kick off.

'I'm suddenly two tenths slower in quali. I'm not sure why'.

'I don't expect to outqualify George again this season'.

It's may very well going get toxic.

It was an odd comment to make.

If he's upset that the team are favouring Russell now, then what did he expect? They'd be stupid not to as there's no chance of LH becoming WDC. They'd be stupid to throw their support under LH.

[rdjohn]

FrankieBee said:

I’m sticking my neck out here…Piastri for pole.

Not quite, but it is the second race, with the updates, where he has shown Lando who is the Daddy!

Lando will have Grace’s vote for driver of the day, but i still think that it is Oscar has who has Bruce’s and Chris’s DNA.

[TheDeuce]

Blib said:

Lewis' interview was interesting. He's beginning to kick off.

'I'm suddenly two tenths slower in quali. I'm not sure why'.

'I don't expect to outqualify George again this season'.

It's may very well going get toxic.

Isn't this just run of the mill outgoing driver stuff? Merc are famously a very fair team when it comes to driver treatment, but when one driver is departing, it's only logical to back the other where possible, in terms of strategy and updates etc.

I don't imagine it's a shock to Lewis and I don't imagine he's going to kick off. He can't discuss the details of why he's slightly back-footed but he has to say something - so he said 'something' and those listening can fill in the (fairly obvious) blanks.

You can't announce you're leaving a team and expect equal treatment, it's a pretty basic principle.

[Big Nanas]

TheDeuce said:

Both Haas DQ'd - unsurprisingly.

It's always amateur hour at Haas: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/haas-dr...

Yes, DQ'd from qualifying, but will start the race from the back.