The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*

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kiseca

9,339 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Muzzer79 said:
So......20 streamliners then? How boring......and slow.

Plus, every category in racing uses aerodynamics to some degree. This is the pinnacle of racing. You might's aswell tell them to use engines powered by steam.
All those calling for a return to NA V10s are more or less doing that. For better or for worse.

AJB88

12,658 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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not F1 news but see Scuderia Ferrari are entering 2023 Le Mans.

kiseca

9,339 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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thegreenhell said:
Green and pink cars, then. That won't look awful at all.
laugh

mw88

1,457 posts

113 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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AJB88 said:
not F1 news but see Scuderia Ferrari are entering 2023 Le Mans.
Just seen they're going to be running a Hypercar, that's great news - The old LMP1 category was dying on it arse for years, hopefully Ferrari's entry and the F1 budget cap opens the door for other F1 teams. Having manufacturers like McLaren, Red Bull, Ferrari, Peugeot, Toyota and Alpine would be a great boost for WEC.

Although, slightly embarrassing for Ferrari if they're beaten by Peugeot and Toyota laugh

Leithen

11,206 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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mw88 said:
Although, slightly embarrassing for Ferrari if they're beaten by Peugeot and Toyota laugh
Nothing new having been beaten by Ford...

Great news though.

Teppic

7,418 posts

259 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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thegreenhell said:
djgritt said:
Aston Martin are retaining BWT as a sponsor, so seems they aren't title sponsoring another outfit then.
Green and pink cars, then. That won't look awful at all.
Someone has been messing around with the Gran Turismo Sport livery editor on PS4 and came up with this livery on a Super Formula car. So long as it’s done right, it won’t look too bad.



However, they probably won’t get it right. In which case it will look bloody awful.

stemll

4,149 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Teppic said:
thegreenhell said:
djgritt said:
Aston Martin are retaining BWT as a sponsor, so seems they aren't title sponsoring another outfit then.
Green and pink cars, then. That won't look awful at all.
Someone has been messing around with the Gran Turismo Sport livery editor on PS4 and came up with this livery on a Super Formula car. So long as it’s done right, it won’t look too bad.



However, they probably won’t get it right. In which case it will look bloody awful.
BWT will not have anything that big, they're not title sponsor, that's Cognizant (so their IT will be permanently broken)

Swampy1982

3,313 posts

113 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Ferrari hobbled by fuel restrictions...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-punished-che...

If true, does that mean a return to form next year?

MiniMan64

17,104 posts

192 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Teppic said:
thegreenhell said:
djgritt said:
Aston Martin are retaining BWT as a sponsor, so seems they aren't title sponsoring another outfit then.
Green and pink cars, then. That won't look awful at all.
Someone has been messing around with the Gran Turismo Sport livery editor on PS4 and came up with this livery on a Super Formula car. So long as it’s done right, it won’t look too bad.



However, they probably won’t get it right. In which case it will look bloody awful.
That looks bloody awful

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Swampy1982 said:
Ferrari hobbled by fuel restrictions...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-punished-che...

If true, does that mean a return to form next year?
If true, Salo is in trouble and can kiss his steward job goodbye.

The whole affair is unacceptable from a governing body that should be open about cheats.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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jsf said:
If true, Salo is in trouble and can kiss his steward job goodbye.

The whole affair is unacceptable from a governing body that should be open about cheats.
Is it not a misunderstanding of what Salo meant? Doesn't 'use less fuel' relate to the fuel flow, as in use less fuel at any one time because the fuel flow rate is no longer being cheated?

Swampy1982

3,313 posts

113 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
jsf said:
If true, Salo is in trouble and can kiss his steward job goodbye.

The whole affair is unacceptable from a governing body that should be open about cheats.
Is it not a misunderstanding of what Salo meant? Doesn't 'use less fuel' relate to the fuel flow, as in use less fuel at any one time because the fuel flow rate is no longer being cheated?
Yes, it's very open to being either

- restricted back to normal levels or

- restricted beyond normal levels to peg them back

Who knows, interesting snippet all the same. If it's the latter it could mean a rapid ferrari resurgence

stemll

4,149 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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vaud said:
stemll said:
BWT will not have anything that big, they're not title sponsor, that's Cognizant (so their IT will be permanently broken)
And delivered in comprehensive global delivery model (definitely not not 90% offshore from India with the people that couldn't be hire hired by Accenture, etc )
Not wanting to derail the thread but not employing people who have worked for Accenture would be a good move for any company.

trackdemon

12,223 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Swampy1982 said:
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
jsf said:
If true, Salo is in trouble and can kiss his steward job goodbye.

The whole affair is unacceptable from a governing body that should be open about cheats.
Is it not a misunderstanding of what Salo meant? Doesn't 'use less fuel' relate to the fuel flow, as in use less fuel at any one time because the fuel flow rate is no longer being cheated?
Yes, it's very open to being either

- restricted back to normal levels or

- restricted beyond normal levels to peg them back

Who knows, interesting snippet all the same. If it's the latter it could mean a rapid ferrari resurgence
Salo: “I don’t know if it’s a new engine but they’re allowed to use it to its full power. They were not allowed last year because of Ferrari.”

Hmmm... scratchchin To me that reads that they were forced to use a flow below the rules as punishment for having breached them the season before (not that we've had confirmation that was happening). It stinks tbh, the lack of transparency around the whole issue just lends itself to that oh so hilarious FIA acronymn.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Really? It just reads to me that the old engine has been designed to work with the cheat and the cheat is no longer in play, hence it's not running at full power (for that engine). The new engine isn't designed to run with the cheat, so can make full power.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Really? It just reads to me that the old engine has been designed to work with the cheat and the cheat is no longer in play, hence it's not running at full power (for that engine). The new engine isn't designed to run with the cheat, so can make full power.
You can read it however you like, but if the quote is accurate he is saying they cheated. The FIA has not said they cheated.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Everybody knows they cheated!

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Everybody knows they cheated!
Officially they didnt.

exelero

1,898 posts

91 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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jsf said:
Officially they didnt.
,,Allegedly” they used a controlled leak from the intercooler to have more fuel in the combustion chamber
,,Press oil button when you can “

Sandpit Steve

10,524 posts

76 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Really? It just reads to me that the old engine has been designed to work with the cheat and the cheat is no longer in play, hence it's not running at full power (for that engine). The new engine isn't designed to run with the cheat, so can make full power.
Yes, and is it not a translation from Finnish too, to add to the ambiguity.

The change actually made last year was the addition of a second fuel flow sensor, to which only the FIA has access. That remains for this season, and the Scuderia have had the past 12 months to develop their engine accordingly.