The Official Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

[KeithR]

007 VXR said:

KeithR said:

007 VXR said:

would be nice to see the winners mixed up abit more

There you go, in a nutshell.

But there is still alot more to F1 than "just" the winner IMO

Yes, in your opinion. But you asked me what would make it better in MY eyes. Well, in MY eyes, not having the same f*cker win every race, and so comfortably at that, would be a damn good start.

[Rollcage]

F1 has long been littered with periods of domination by a team/driver - it's nothing new.

There has been some great racing in recent years IMO, some of it even containing Vettel.


Last year's start to the season as fantastic, and the end wasn't bad. Brazil 2012 isn't even a year old in our memories - how quickly we forget!

[007 VXR]

KeithR said:

007 VXR said:

KeithR said:

007 VXR said:

would be nice to see the winners mixed up abit more

There you go, in a nutshell.

But there is still alot more to F1 than "just" the winner IMO

Yes, in your opinion. But you asked me what would make it better in MY eyes. Well, in MY eyes, not having the same f*cker win every race, and so comfortably at that, would be a damn good start.

So what is YOUR opinion on last years championship?

[DanielSan]

KeithR said:

Yes, in your opinion. But you asked me what would make it better in MY eyes. Well, in MY eyes, not having the same f*cker win every race, and so comfortably at that, would be a damn good start.

Then write to the other teams expressing your displeasure. They're the ones not doing a good enough job to fulfil your requirement for the sport.

[DanielSan]

KeithR said:

Yes, in your opinion. But you asked me what would make it better in MY eyes. Well, in MY eyes, not having the same f*cker win every race, and so comfortably at that, would be a damn good start.

Then write to the other teams expressing your displeasure. They're the ones not doing a good enough job to fulfil your requirement for the sport. In fact why not tell them where they're going wrong and what they should do to gain a second a lap..

[RichB]

DanielSan said:

... tell them where they're going wrong and what they should do to gain a second a lap..

Two seconds a lap I think in the last race.

As people on Pistonheads are constantly explaining; Vettel is obviously worth 2 seconds a lap over Alonso, Hamilton and Webber, there's no other explanation for it so I suggest they simply hire Vettel.

[Logie]

Turned off after SV got into first and KM crashed out. Didn't see much point in watching, the problem is tires suit some cars so they do well, other teams have to drive a certain way otherwise they have to pit 3+ times.

That is the problem, tires. But i doubt they will ever get a tyre that all teams will say "Sweet"

[simonpeter]

The more unpredictable the sport is the more exciting etc. Think most would agree on that one. We have an on going problem however. F1 wants to be as green and sustainable as possible, like almost everyone except Jezza Clarkson. This has resulted in bullet proof engines and gearboxs, also the points system now rewards consistant finishing and prize money more than winning. Years ago sometimes half the cars would be smoking by the side of the track by race end. Reliability has meant that only consistant performance gains will move a car driver combination forward. Then we have the on going tyre situation as mentioned by others with drivers being told on a regular bases don`t race the guy about to overtake you. We all hope there will be a less predictable 2014 with the new formula. But are we right to hope for this. Next year the cars will run with a maximum 100kg of fuel? The excitment may be guessing what the radio transmitions are going to be in advance!

[iiyama]

Change the gear boxes out and go back to manuals. Simples!

[simonpeter]

Manual gearboxes, Ahh lovely, as Hewland adds used to say it`s what your right hand is for! I remember when John Barnard Designed the 1989 Ferrari with the first auto shift system, thinking oh god that will be overtaking cut by half.

[Vaud]

simonpeter said:

Manual gearboxes, Ahh lovely, as Hewland adds used to say it`s what your right hand is for! I remember when John Barnard Designed the 1989 Ferrari with the first auto shift system, thinking oh god that will be overtaking cut by half.

I think a manual gearbox with a device that prevented over revving on downshift - it would prevent gear selection (with the penalty being time to reengeage back up the box)

Could be fun. Could be rubbish. Would certainly throw in an added driver skill.

Providing we could do it without increasing engine failures and therefore costs?

[Durzel]

They already have paddles, and there's no auto or semi-auto gear selection, so it's manual already.

Adding something that forces them to take one hand off the wheel doesn't strike me as a particularly clever suggestion.

Hopefully the new KERS (twice the boost) will add some variety

[Vaud]

Durzel said:

They already have paddles, and there's no auto or semi-auto gear selection, so it's manual already.

Adding something that forces them to take one hand off the wheel doesn't strike me as a particularly clever suggestion.

Hopefully the new KERS (twice the boost) will add some variety

It isn't manual, it's flick a paddle. Manual requires clutch, throttle and gearbox selection control.

[RichB]

Durzel said:

Adding something that forces them to take one hand off the wheel doesn't strike me as a particularly clever suggestion.

Bless...

[007 VXR]

Vaud said:

Durzel said:

They already have paddles, and there's no auto or semi-auto gear selection, so it's manual already.

Adding something that forces them to take one hand off the wheel doesn't strike me as a particularly clever suggestion.

Hopefully the new KERS (twice the boost) will add some variety

It isn't manual, it's flick a paddle. Manual requires clutch, throttle and gearbox selection control.

But its not Auto ?

[Vaud]

007 VXR said:

But its not Auto ?

It's a semi automatic with no penalty (time or engine) for mis-shifting.

[007 VXR]

Vaud said:

007 VXR said:

But its not Auto ?

It's a semi automatic with no penalty (time or engine) for mis-shifting.

You know its 2013 not 1964 ?

[Vaud]

007 VXR said:

You know its 2013 not 1964 ?

Oh bugger.

There would be room though for a technology that put more control and skill back in the hands of the driver without a penalty of engine detonation... A level of purity in driver - car... a fun added variable no more or less artificial than DRS.

[007 VXR]

Vaud said:

007 VXR said:

You know its 2013 not 1964 ?

Oh bugger.

There would be room though for a technology that put more control and skill back in the hands of the driver without a penalty of engine detonation... A level of purity in driver - car... a fun added variable no more or less artificial than DRS.

What i would Reeealy like to see in F1 is no restrictions on tech/aero/power/engine, now that would be fun

[RichB]

007 VXR said:

What i would Reeealy like to see in F1 is no restrictions on tech/aero/power/engine, now that would be fun

Now you've said something I totally agree with and have been saying for ages. The current rigid formula means we are unlikely ever to see such ideas as the floating chassis Lotus or ground effect cars, the Brabham fan-car or the 6 wheel Tyrell indeed if the powers that be had prevailed 50 years ago those high-winged cars would never have been designed. No, you're right there's far too much restriction on what's allowed these days which as led to the procession we now see every Sunday. Let them be radical I say and loosen the reigns. Then we'd get some real racing!