Schumachers finest moments
Discussion
There was one race, can't remember the circuit or year (sorry), when he was I believe following Hill, and on each lap he took a wide line to a particular corner. On about the sixth occasion he passed Hill using this line and out braked him. It was agreed that the wide line on the previous 5 occasions he was cleaning the track so he knew he would have ample grip to complete the move. ...I might be wrong but I'm sure that was the case.
fuelracer496 said:
Spa 1995.
Qualified 16th, came through the field to win.
This is my problem with Schumi fans. Was it great to come through the field in the best car on the grid or was Hill just inept at overtaking?Qualified 16th, came through the field to win.
You decide:- https://vimeo.com/107291208
ooo000ooo said:
In Brazil one year he was in second (I think) right behind the other car. On the second corner he started running wide every lap, commentators reckoned he was understeering or something, after about 10 laps of running wider and wider each lap it turned out that he'd been cleaning that part of the corner so that, when ready, he was able to pracically drive round the outside of the car he was trying to pass on a corner that was normally impossible to overtake on.
That is geniusswisstoni said:
He'll always be known as a flawed genius, but genius all the same.
Nothing flawed about him at all.A cheeky fuuka somtimes, admitedly. But all planned. You really dont sit on nearly £800 million wealth by accident.
And then, his charitable works. Unsung, unnoticed.
He has taken a lot for himself and given back more.
A great man and an example of a great human being.
frumpytrickle said:
Love him or hate him (and as a german man, most brits sadly dont love him)
What a ridiculous notion. If you have to search for a reason why many Brit's didn't take to him it was nothing to do with his nationality but a lot to do with him punting Damon Hill off in '94. he was one of the great racing drivers, probably one of the top 5 but his fans shouldn't try to invent spurious reasons for his unpopularity. Eric Mc said:
Do you equate cheekiness with cheating?
A fine line. Ruthlessly finding and taking advantage of your oponents weakness is possibly unsportsman like but at least he had the balls to say 'yes, i did park it 'cos i knew it would screw qualy'
Bodyline wasnt cricket either and very unsporting but didnt break the rules. I suppose times change. Or not.
Ill admit though, cricketers generally have a good idea of honour. I popped to my then girfriends house a while back, to be confronted by Barry Jarman, Rudy Koetze and Richard Benau having cheese and wine. They where lamenting Don Bradman. January 2003 the night before England played Australia in Adelaide. Had an interestinf conversations with them. Not least the 'what happens overseas stays overseas' ones.
entropy said:
Agent Orange said:
Just putting it out there as such a great photo.
Spectacular, isn't it?The danger, heart in mouth, coming out the other in one piece. Isn't that why racing drivers/riders are hero worshipped?
Rubens should have known better and perhaps lacking racecraft. There's the one-move-rule: why not fake the inside and try to go round the outside?
mattikake said:
To me this is the most annoying legacy of Schumacher's reign, even more so than his misdemeanours. We never really got to know how good he really was in a fair fight. It's also the reason that F1's viewing figures declined for the first time ever in the history of the sport.
His run of world titles at Ferrari was solely responsible for me basically stopping watching F1 actively since I was a kid in the early 80s. It was watching Alonso finally make it more interesting and winning a title in 2005 that got me back into F1 but then again I'm reminded that the no tyre stops mean't Michelins tyres being superior then bridgestones might have levelled the playing field a bit.TVR1 said:
Ruthlessly finding and taking advantage of your oponents weakness is possibly unsportsman like but at least he had the balls to say 'yes, i did park it 'cos i knew it would screw qualy'
When did he ever admit what he did was wrong? He tried to worm his way out with a shoddy excuse.In '97 European GP he couldn't fathom the criticism he got for trying to take out JV.
On the one hand his actions weren't premeditated - for a split second in decision making the default choice was to cheat; but then the flip side is the likes of Senna and Prost admitted their actions were premeditated.
TVR1 said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you equate cheekiness with cheating?
A fine line. He's clearly a genuine philanthropist, and one of the best racing drivers we'll ever see, but when racing, his id won out over his superego too many times to ignore.
TVR1 said:
swisstoni said:
He'll always be known as a flawed genius, but genius all the same.
Nothing flawed about him at all.A cheeky fuuka somtimes, admitedly. But all planned. You really dont sit on nearly £800 million wealth by accident.
And then, his charitable works. Unsung, unnoticed.
He has taken a lot for himself and given back more.
A great man and an example of a great human being.
This cheating thing is a funny old thing, for some reason Schumacher just seems to bring it out in people - I suspect it is the dominance he had and the sheer desire to win which meant he crossed over the line (1997 really sticks out for me).
However, people who criticise Schumacher must surely do the same for our present crop of drivers (for example Alonso, who strikes me as a very similar mindset). And yet nobody does.
Odd that.
However, people who criticise Schumacher must surely do the same for our present crop of drivers (for example Alonso, who strikes me as a very similar mindset). And yet nobody does.
Odd that.
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