The Official 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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CraigyMc said:
Just to make me look like a tit, Alonso will not be racing, Stoffel will be driving in his place.
Apparently there's something in the chest scans the doctors don't like.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35934347Apparently there's something in the chest scans the doctors don't like.
In Thursday's news conference in Bahrain, the 34-year-old revealed he suffered a pneumothorax - a partially collapsed lung - as a result of the accident in Melbourne but this had now healed.
He said it was "not 100%" that he will be able to race in China in two weeks and he will be tested again in the next eight to 10 days after which governing body the FIA will evaluate his condition.
Alonso added: "I am already recovered from the pneumothorax but the rib is too fresh and it could be a potential problem."
Vaud said:
kambites said:
Interesting. So if a team was pushing for the constructor's championship and ran out of engines towards the end of the season, it might actually be worth swapping a reserve driver in rather than taking the grid place penalty?
It would seem so.I guess it would be balanced by how "up to speed" that driver was, but in theory yes - and you could run four races in maximum attack with the four engines?
Vaud said:
jsf said:
You have this wrong. You missed rule 23.4 g) which states "If a driver is replaced at any time during the Championship season his replacement will be deemed to be the original driver for the purposes of assessing power unit usage."
That will teach me to skim read!
According to the BBC Bernie has accused Formula 1 of "cheating" its fans because the quality of the show is poor. "Imagine if people turned up to watch the Rolling Stones and Mick (Jagger) couldn't sing and the others couldn't play their instruments," he said.
Given that BE's long-established and well-documented obsession with money is the underlying reason for the poor show, isn't this a bit rich (sic)?
Given that BE's long-established and well-documented obsession with money is the underlying reason for the poor show, isn't this a bit rich (sic)?
Blackpuddin said:
According to the BBC Bernie has accused Formula 1 of "cheating" its fans because the quality of the show is poor. "Imagine if people turned up to watch the Rolling Stones and Mick (Jagger) couldn't sing and the others couldn't play their instruments," he said.
Given that BE's long-established and well-documented obsession with money is the underlying reason for the poor show, isn't this a bit rich (sic)?
So the boss of F1 is criticising those in charge of F1.Given that BE's long-established and well-documented obsession with money is the underlying reason for the poor show, isn't this a bit rich (sic)?
Just heard Bernie on Radio 5 saying that there is no point going back to the old quali system because it won't solve the problem of the fastest guys always qualifying at the front.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.
If the Ferraris really are a match for the Mercedes, this year this is exactly what we want. We want all four of those guys at the front so they can race each other. What we definitely do not want is for one of those guys to be on pole and the others to be in 5th, 6th and 7th - this is worst case scenario the guy on pole cruises to an easy win while the other 3 lose time but ultimately make it through to the podium with ease.
The problem is that the other cars are not fast enough and this because of the massive cost of the power units and the rules restricting development.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.
If the Ferraris really are a match for the Mercedes, this year this is exactly what we want. We want all four of those guys at the front so they can race each other. What we definitely do not want is for one of those guys to be on pole and the others to be in 5th, 6th and 7th - this is worst case scenario the guy on pole cruises to an easy win while the other 3 lose time but ultimately make it through to the podium with ease.
The problem is that the other cars are not fast enough and this because of the massive cost of the power units and the rules restricting development.
Mr_Thyroid said:
Just heard Bernie on Radio 5 saying that there is no point going back to the old quali system because it won't solve the problem of the fastest guys always qualifying at the front.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.
If the Ferraris really are a match for the Mercedes, this year this is exactly what we want. We want all four of those guys at the front so they can race each other. What we definitely do not want is for one of those guys to be on pole and the others to be in 5th, 6th and 7th - this is worst case scenario the guy on pole cruises to an easy win while the other 3 lose time but ultimately make it through to the podium with ease.
The problem is that the other cars are not fast enough and this because of the massive cost of the power units and the rules restricting development.
I think Bernie is probably suffering from dementia. He's off his head, if he thinks going back to the old format is going to destroy the one thing that is going to save this season. Ferrari vs Mercedes. If those two teams cannot go head to head, you might as well hand both the WCC and WDC to Mercedes on a plate. Which is what Bernie and the powers that be are hell bent on doing, while saying that they are trying to do the opposite. I conclude that Bernie really has got dementia.THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.
If the Ferraris really are a match for the Mercedes, this year this is exactly what we want. We want all four of those guys at the front so they can race each other. What we definitely do not want is for one of those guys to be on pole and the others to be in 5th, 6th and 7th - this is worst case scenario the guy on pole cruises to an easy win while the other 3 lose time but ultimately make it through to the podium with ease.
The problem is that the other cars are not fast enough and this because of the massive cost of the power units and the rules restricting development.
Technical report lists Raikkonen as using new MGU-K, MGU-H and Turbo. Vettel and Raikkonen are using new control electronics (CE). Kyvat is using new ES (Energy Store) and CE. Alonso's car using all of the above in a new PU, obviously.
Button only 3-4 kph down on Rosberg in the speed trap data on all sectors.
Button only 3-4 kph down on Rosberg in the speed trap data on all sectors.
Edited by Dr Z on Friday 1st April 14:47
k.Dr Z said:
Technical report lists Raikkonen as using new MGU-K, MGU-H and Turbo. Vettel and Raikkonen are using new control electronics (CE). Kyvat is using new ES (Energy Store) and CE. Alonso's car using all of the above in a new PU, obviously.
Button only 3-4 kph down on Rosberg in the speed trap data on all sectors.
Where did you get the speed trap data?Button only 3-4 kph down on Rosberg in the speed trap data on all sectors.
CraigyMc said:
Where did you get the speed trap data?
Sorry, my mistake. It was average speed on the different sectors for their fastest laps. I got it from a screen shot of the classification screen on circuit posted on another forum.
The McLaren's don't feature yet on the top 10 of the speed trap at the end of the straight.
Dr Z said:
CraigyMc said:
Where did you get the speed trap data?
Sorry, my mistake. It was average speed on the different sectors for their fastest laps. I got it from a screen shot of the classification screen on circuit posted on another forum.The McLaren's don't feature yet on the top 10 of the speed trap at the end of the straight.
The FP1 figures don't really involve Ferrari in the top 10 so you'd have to assume they are a bit "testing"-y rather than actual representative times.
OT: Anyone read up on Mercedes using heaters in their fuel injectors? Apparently this is a thing Ferrari/Honda have caught on to.
CraigyMc said:
OK - ta for replying. I thought I was missing some data. The FIA only publish trap figures for Quali/race usually, although I think the F1 live timing app might too (I don't have it so don't know).
The FP1 figures don't really involve Ferrari in the top 10 so you'd have to assume they are a bit "testing"-y rather than actual representative times.
Yes, for £2.29/month you get all that data in real time via the F1 app, and I don't have it either. Tempting though. The FP1 figures don't really involve Ferrari in the top 10 so you'd have to assume they are a bit "testing"-y rather than actual representative times.
I expect a lot of the race sims will be conducted in FP2 due to the representative conditions. I see that Ferrari are straight out on the mediums evaluating this tyre's performance.
So what do people expect from this race? Ferrari to fight a losing battle? Merc dominance?
I haven't seen any articles on the first race performance so do we think Ferrari are closer than they appeared in qualifying? Vettel did manage to get away from Rosberg for awhile but didn't Rosberg basically match Vettels times when Vettel was on the softs and Rosberg was on the mediums?
But Vettel did catch Hamilton at the end of the race when they would have been quickest so hopefully Ferrari are actually a race winning threat rather than just podium hopefuls!
I haven't seen any articles on the first race performance so do we think Ferrari are closer than they appeared in qualifying? Vettel did manage to get away from Rosberg for awhile but didn't Rosberg basically match Vettels times when Vettel was on the softs and Rosberg was on the mediums?
But Vettel did catch Hamilton at the end of the race when they would have been quickest so hopefully Ferrari are actually a race winning threat rather than just podium hopefuls!
confucuis said:
So what do people expect from this race? Ferrari to fight a losing battle? Merc dominance?
I haven't seen any articles on the first race performance so do we think Ferrari are closer than they appeared in qualifying? Vettel did manage to get away from Rosberg for awhile but didn't Rosberg basically match Vettels times when Vettel was on the softs and Rosberg was on the mediums?
But Vettel did catch Hamilton at the end of the race when they would have been quickest so hopefully Ferrari are actually a race winning threat rather than just podium hopefuls!
Merc fastest.I haven't seen any articles on the first race performance so do we think Ferrari are closer than they appeared in qualifying? Vettel did manage to get away from Rosberg for awhile but didn't Rosberg basically match Vettels times when Vettel was on the softs and Rosberg was on the mediums?
But Vettel did catch Hamilton at the end of the race when they would have been quickest so hopefully Ferrari are actually a race winning threat rather than just podium hopefuls!
The Ferraris have thus far not shown their hand at all - their practise pace has been masked by traffic and errors.
Button currently showing as 3rd, which is nice. Probably won't last, but it's nice...
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