How many more Titles will Hamilton Win?

How many more Titles will Hamilton Win?

Poll: How many more Titles will Hamilton Win?

Total Members Polled: 155

No More he has had his day : 7%
1: 18%
2: 46%
3: 13%
4: 6%
More than 4 : 10%
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Bo_apex

2,586 posts

219 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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37chevy said:
Bo_apex said:
According to Ross Brawn they were all 2nd class teammates by comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6PCeyqheCY
But how many competitive teammates did he have?
None. Simply because he was faster than all teammates on most days, and the rest of the grid. Even though Barrichello was no slouch, this shows us why MS was almost always quicker.










Edited by Bo_apex on Sunday 3rd December 18:22

swisstoni

17,129 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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I don't think Hamilton will reach Schumacher's total because he doesn't insist on No1 status.
Bottas made himself No2 this year by not getting close enough. Hamilton even 'paid him back' what could have been vital points early in the season. No No1 driver would dream of doing that.

If Hamilton changes his mind then I'm sure Merc could line up a succession of fall-guys to take points away from competitors and make sure Hamilton takes maximum points.
Then I think he could push Schumacher's total.
But it ain't going to happen.

kambites

67,661 posts

222 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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I guess the question is whether Bottas will ever be capable of challenging him. I was surprised this year by how big the gap was - I never really rated Bottas as a top tier driver but I thought he'd be consistantly close... maybe as he settles into the team he'll close the gap but this year he wasn't even quick enough to play rear-gunner properly. One of the bigger problems both Hamilton and Vettel had this year was that when their respective car was faster, their team mate wasn't capable of coming second. From that point of view, Bottas getting a bit faster will make it easier for Hamilton to win the title, not harder.

Someone with lots of statistics to hand... when was the last season with so few team one-twos? There were, what, four this season?

Edited by kambites on Sunday 3rd December 21:43

sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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swisstoni said:
I don't think Hamilton will reach Schumacher's total because he doesn't insist on No1 status.
Bottas made himself No2 this year by not getting close enough. Hamilton even 'paid him back' what could have been vital points early in the season. No No1 driver would dream of doing that.

If Hamilton changes his mind then I'm sure Merc could line up a succession of fall-guys to take points away from competitors and make sure Hamilton takes maximum points.
Then I think he could push Schumacher's total.
But it ain't going to happen.
Be under no illusion that if Lewis was still battling for the WDC with Vettel down to the wire, Mercedes would have found a way to get him past Bottas in Abu Dhabi wink

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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sparta6 said:
Be under no illusion that if Lewis was still battling for the WDC with Vettel down to the wire, Mercedes would have found a way to get him past Bottas in Abu Dhabi wink
Don’t think it would have needed team orders. After giving Bottas his place back earlier in the year, Valtteri would have done it through respect

swisstoni

17,129 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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37chevy said:
sparta6 said:
Be under no illusion that if Lewis was still battling for the WDC with Vettel down to the wire, Mercedes would have found a way to get him past Bottas in Abu Dhabi wink
Don’t think it would have needed team orders. After giving Bottas his place back earlier in the year, Valtteri would have done it through respect
Hamilton virtually had to nail Rosbergs coffin down for 3 seasons and failed to do so on numerous occasions. Hardly No1 status.

chris285

811 posts

133 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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I think he will retire before he breaks the total wins or titles set by schumacher myself, he is doing more and more outside of F1 and think this will be where he wants to go in the next few years

I am not going to compare drivers of differnet era's due to cars and other factors, so i don't think we will ever really know but I think Lewis is up there. I do think Schumacher made the ultimate of his position with the team, tyres and such around him as he had no compeitition basically

For me Silvertsone 2008 set out how good Lewis was, in the wet he was in a different class to everyone else in the field and ended up finishing almost a minute ahead which generally in the last 20yrs is almost unheard of. I think he has always managed to get the best out of a car, and has won a race in every year of F1 he has competed which i think may be something only he has acheived?

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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It looks like he’ll go for 4 more years at least.

He’s 31 wins behind MSC. He’s averaged around 10 wins a year the last 4 years. If he wins that many a year he’s going to be there or thereabouts in the title race so it’s certainly feasible.

If he races more than 4 years I think the win total is nailed on.

Sa Calobra

37,243 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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chris285 said:
I think he will retire before he breaks the total wins or titles set by schumacher myself, he is doing more and more outside of F1 and think this will be where he wants to go in the next few years

I am not going to compare drivers of differnet era's due to cars and other factors, so i don't think we will ever really know but I think Lewis is up there. I do think Schumacher made the ultimate of his position with the team, tyres and such around him as he had no compeitition basically

For me Silvertsone 2008 set out how good Lewis was, in the wet he was in a different class to everyone else in the field and ended up finishing almost a minute ahead which generally in the last 20yrs is almost unheard of. I think he has always managed to get the best out of a car, and has won a race in every year of F1 he has competed which i think may be something only he has acheived?
Agree hes spent most of his life racing. At some point he's going to quit and have a disastrous singing career biggrin

F1GTRUeno

6,369 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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GCH said:
He will stop at 8, including a stint at Ferrari.
I can't quite put my finger on why but I don't see him at Ferrari somehow...

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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F1GTRUeno said:
I can't quite put my finger on why but I don't see him at Ferrari somehow...
Mainly coz Zie German V2 doesn’t like competitive teammates and wouldn’t allow it

Melman Giraffe

Original Poster:

6,759 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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37chevy said:
F1GTRUeno said:
I can't quite put my finger on why but I don't see him at Ferrari somehow...
Mainly coz Zie German V2 doesn’t like competitive teammates and wouldn’t allow it
Lewis would out drive Seb in the same car so no competition

thegreenhell

15,573 posts

220 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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He said in a recent interview that he wants to finish his career at Mercedes, and has no interest in driving for Ferrari.

sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Melman Giraffe said:
Lewis would out drive Seb in the same car so no competition
Can you also reveal next week's National Lottery winning numbers. Thanks.

Melman Giraffe

Original Poster:

6,759 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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sparta6 said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Lewis would out drive Seb in the same car so no competition
Can you also reveal next week's National Lottery winning numbers. Thanks.
I think you know this is a fact also

LDN

8,953 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Melman Giraffe said:
sparta6 said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Lewis would out drive Seb in the same car so no competition
Can you also reveal next week's National Lottery winning numbers. Thanks.
I think you know this is a fact also
Everyone does; including Seb... that’s why he likes a clear number two driver. It’s the German way!

Melman Giraffe

Original Poster:

6,759 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Exactly

Mr. White

1,035 posts

105 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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swisstoni said:
I don't think Hamilton will reach Schumacher's total because he doesn't insist on No1 status.
Bottas made himself No2 this year by not getting close enough. Hamilton even 'paid him back' what could have been vital points early in the season. No No1 driver would dream of doing that.

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He'd already have at least 6 if he did - 2007 and 2016.