Official 2020 Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2020 Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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Gazzab

21,125 posts

283 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Gazzab said:
I am astonished that they haven’t already cancelled the Australian GP. Whilst everyone would rather normality continued, lots of other global events have been cancelled eg world mobile congress. I guess the difference here is that the participants have significant commercial pressures.
Also for Melbourne (Victoria) the GP is a fundamental part of their economy, it's huge for them.

However, the awkward truth is that the authorities have put in place bans on casual visitors from certain countries, including Italy... People with specific work/purpose will still be allowed entry but will be subject to a 14 day quarantine. So how do Ferrari, Alfa and pirelli get to the track?? There is already less than 14 days before FP1.

As it happens Ferrari have held part of their normal engineer team back in Italy instead of bringing them to Barcelona - that could be part of a token quarantine effort ahead of travel, or it's even possible they're in Australia already. Whatever their solution is for Melbourne, it's already clear that the travel bans are going to keep coming and will doubtless screw up a number of scheduled GP's. The question is, how many?
I assume that the legal teams will only allow F1to cancel an event and therefore satisfy the insurers rules by being forced to cancel by WHO, governments etc.

Mr Pointy

11,333 posts

160 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Mr Dendrite said:
Blimey it is only two weeks away, I’m losing it...
Hmm... Time to sort out how I'm going to get access to watch the races this year.

TheDeuce

22,234 posts

67 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Gazzab said:
I assume that the legal teams will only allow F1to cancel an event and therefore satisfy the insurers rules by being forced to cancel by WHO, governments etc.
As with China, there was a pause between it being obvious it was impossible and the announcement actually being made. During the pause I've no doubt everyone's lawyers and insurers were wrangling over who makes the final call.

TheDeuce

22,234 posts

67 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Interesting side story - Geneva motor show has been cancelled! An event I've worked at for years...

The (ultra conservative) Swiss have decided to outlaw gatherings of 1000+ people. Another worrying precedent as to how governments can scupper international events frown

sparta6

3,705 posts

101 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Interesting side story - Geneva motor show has been cancelled! An event I've worked at for years...

The (ultra conservative) Swiss have decided to outlaw gatherings of 1000+ people. Another worrying precedent as to how governments can scupper international events frown
Smart and clean people those Swiss.

Prevention better than cure


TheDeuce

22,234 posts

67 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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sparta6 said:
TheDeuce said:
Interesting side story - Geneva motor show has been cancelled! An event I've worked at for years...

The (ultra conservative) Swiss have decided to outlaw gatherings of 1000+ people. Another worrying precedent as to how governments can scupper international events frown
Smart and clean people those Swiss.

Prevention better than cure
Yea.. I don't blame them. As it happens the marque I do the motorshow stuff for pulled out of Geneva a couple of years back anyway, so I wasn't due to go this year. I've always enjoyed my time there though, everything 'just works' in Switzerland.

However, my sadness is that such cancellations start to set precedents which, although inevitable, will spread and lead to cancelled races. Also sensible, granted - yet sad all the same.

The Moose

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22,896 posts

210 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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I’m afraid, I don’t think Melbourne is going to go ahead. I really hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it happening.

mart 63

2,071 posts

245 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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My wife has just messaged her niece, who's fiance works for ticketmaster in Australia. He's got us a couple of tickets in the Senna stand. He has just told us that the Victoria goverment have guaranteed the the race will go ahead.

greygoose

8,295 posts

196 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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mart 63 said:
My wife has just messaged her niece, who's fiance works for ticketmaster in Australia. He's got us a couple of tickets in the Senna stand. He has just told us that the Victoria goverment have guaranteed the the race will go ahead.
A lot can change in a couple of weeks.

The Vambo

6,688 posts

142 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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sparta6 said:
TheDeuce said:
Interesting side story - Geneva motor show has been cancelled! An event I've worked at for years...

The (ultra conservative) Swiss have decided to outlaw gatherings of 1000+ people. Another worrying precedent as to how governments can scupper international events frown
Smart and clean people those Swiss.

Prevention better than cure
Dubious morals though...

Greeny

1,421 posts

260 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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They need to decide soon, teams are packing things up to be shipped next week as I type !

HustleRussell

24,780 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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Very excited for the start of the season. I will be away from home and drinking on the weekend though so it'll be a real challenge for me to watch live. Maybe the first re-run...

I think we're in for a good season. Plenty of potential for intrigue.

I reckon Ricciardo and Ocon in particular will be fireworks.

slipstream 1985 said:
my early prediction

1. mercedes
2. red bull

3. ferrari
4. tracing point

5. mclaren

6. renault
7. alpha tauri
8. alfa romeo

9. haas
10.williams

Gaps represent who they will likely be closest to.
This is pretty much as I was thinking as a general running order for the beginning of the season, however I don't think there will be much of a gap to speak of between Racing Point, Mclaren and Renault. Also I wouldn't be so sure of putting Haas down there with Williams, I have found it very hard to arrive at an order for 7th/8th/9th.

The season long performance of Racing Point is surely going to get averaged down by Stroll's poor qualifying performance so I don't think they're coming fourth in the constructors.

Renault may spring a surprise vs. Mclaren. The customer engine deal is ending so Renault may play dirty the way they did with Toro Rosso in 2017.

pits

6,429 posts

191 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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The Moose said:
Session Track Time UK Time Sky Coverage Starts C4 Coverage EST Time


RACE driving 16:10 06:10 Pitlane 04:10, Race 05:10 TBC 01:10
To clarify, is the race starting at 5:10 in the morning or 6:10 in the morning?

LivingTheDream

1,756 posts

180 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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pits said:
The Moose said:
Session Track Time UK Time Sky Coverage Starts C4 Coverage EST Time


RACE driving 16:10 06:10 Pitlane 04:10, Race 05:10 TBC 01:10
To clarify, is the race starting at 5:10 in the morning or 6:10 in the morning?
The race is at 6.10 start

Sky programme starts at 4.10 for 'Pitlane Live' as they call it. Then their race show starts at 5.10am

SydneyBridge

8,693 posts

159 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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According to the sky schedule, they are on air at 3am and the race is at 5.10

Paul_M3

2,376 posts

186 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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SydneyBridge said:
According to the sky schedule, they are on air at 3am and the race is at 5.10
Correct. The race is at 5:10am. It’s at 4:10pm local time.

The Moose

Original Poster:

22,896 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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I'm sorry. Time zone maths fail frown

The Moose

Original Poster:

22,896 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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I wonder if all the guys needed for Melbourne got out of Northern Italy in time...

TheDeuce

22,234 posts

67 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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The Moose said:
I wonder if all the guys needed for Melbourne got out of Northern Italy in time...
I wonder if the Barcelona testing contingent even risked going back... In terms of travel bans it would be more practical to not return home. Ferrari have already said they're splitting the workforce to enable travel.

This season is starting to feel a little farcical. Ferrari might have shown themselves up in other ways recently but I do believe they'll bend over backwards to be at each GP no matter what. It's just... The GP's themselves might not happen.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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Alpha Tauri left early, some Ferrari people are there, some leave Sunday, some Monday.