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paulguitar

24,144 posts

115 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
LDN said:
Hamilton has driven historic race cars and gotten very giddy over them...

As for what he should do with the rest of his life; is it odd that anyone other than he, cares? I think so.
Happy to be educated. I've seen some team PR work involving historics, but then that doesn't really count.

As pointed out above, care isn't the word. I suppose it's a matter of empathy- as a car and motor racing enthusiast, it's endearing to see a driver just as giddy and excited about the above as I would be.
I think Lewis is a HUGE petrolhead and crazy about cars and racing. Look at his road cars, he has some really proper stuff.

As for what he does after retirement, I think I remember him saying he will likely not race other categories because he looks at F1 as the pinnacle and anything else would be something of a climbdown. I certainly can’t see him trudging around the world as a pundit.

I can understand why people are interested in what he will do once the racing is over. I am a big fan of lewis, but I really hope after his ‘Dianna’ effort, he does not become a poet!

VladD

7,917 posts

267 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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paulguitar said:
CanoeSniffer said:
LDN said:
Hamilton has driven historic race cars and gotten very giddy over them...

As for what he should do with the rest of his life; is it odd that anyone other than he, cares? I think so.
Happy to be educated. I've seen some team PR work involving historics, but then that doesn't really count.

As pointed out above, care isn't the word. I suppose it's a matter of empathy- as a car and motor racing enthusiast, it's endearing to see a driver just as giddy and excited about the above as I would be.
I think Lewis is a HUGE petrolhead and crazy about cars and racing. Look at his road cars, he has some really proper stuff.

As for what he does after retirement, I think I remember him saying he will likely not race other categories because he looks at F1 as the pinnacle and anything else would be something of a climbdown. I certainly can’t see him trudging around the world as a pundit.

I can understand why people are interested in what he will do once the racing is over. I am a big fan of lewis, but I really hope after his ‘Dianna’ effort, he does not become a poet!
I agree. Button said he'd never do Le Mans and he's now apparently in talks with a LMP team. These guys have been racing since they were young. I'm not sure most of them know how to do anything else. Maybe Lewis won't do any other racing full time once he leaves F1, but I'm sure he'll pop up every now and again to have some fun in something. A guest BTCC drive Mansell style could be very entertaining.

Vaud

50,970 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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VladD said:
I agree. Button said he'd never do Le Mans and he's now apparently in talks with a LMP team. These guys have been racing since they were young. I'm not sure most of them know how to do anything else. Maybe Lewis won't do any other racing full time once he leaves F1, but I'm sure he'll pop up every now and again to have some fun in something. A guest BTCC drive Mansell style could be very entertaining.
I was thinking that Prost quit and never raced again, but rechecked and had forgotten his years of ice racing in the Andros Trophy (and 3 championships)

anonymous-user

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56 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Vaud said:
I was thinking that Prost quit and never raced again, but rechecked and had forgotten his years of ice racing in the Andros Trophy (and 3 championships)
Many drivers get fed up with F1 and how much energy and time it takes to do year after year. I have a feeling Lewis is starting to think this way.

But many "once they have retired" just don't know what to do with themselves. Racing was basically all they ever knew in life so the need to start again is very strong which is understandable. Take Schumacher for instance.

Racing is a drug which is very hard to get over unless you have something to keep the mind busy.



Vaud

50,970 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Many drivers get fed up with F1 and how much energy and time it takes to do year after year. I have a feeling Lewis is starting to think this way.

But many "once they have retired" just don't know what to do with themselves. Racing was basically all they ever knew in life so the need to start again is very strong which is understandable. Take Schumacher for instance.

Racing is a drug which is very hard to get over unless you have something to keep the mind busy.
I was just looking back... very few have quit and not raced. As champions, Nico Rosberg and Damon Hill are the only two that quit and (so far) did not do further competitive racing.

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

81 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Many drivers get fed up with F1 and how much energy and time it takes to do year after year. I have a feeling Lewis is starting to think this way.

But many "once they have retired" just don't know what to do with themselves. Racing was basically all they ever knew in life so the need to start again is very strong which is understandable. Take Schumacher for instance.

Racing is a drug which is very hard to get over unless you have something to keep the mind busy.
100% agree with you and that is what differentiate Hamilton to most of his peers. the guy has actually a life outside F1. He is passionate about other things and already thinking of jumping in new ventures. I reckon that it must affect some of his racing weekends but all in all, it does keep him happy and well balanced.

Vaud

50,970 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
100% agree with you and that is what differentiate Hamilton to most of his peers. the guy has actually a life outside F1.
Quite a few of them do...

Kimi has a race team
Alonso has a clothing line, museum, kart track franchise (and used to have a cycle team)
etc

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

81 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Vaud said:
Quite a few of them do...

Kimi has a race team
Alonso has a clothing line, museum, kart track franchise (and used to have a cycle team)
etc
yes, their other projects are Motorsport based or other forms of racing. Hamilton projects have nothing to do with Motorsport or racing for the moment. that was my points.

Vaud

50,970 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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E34-3.2 said:
yes, their other projects are Motorsport based or other forms of racing. Hamilton projects have nothing to do with Motorsport or racing for the moment. that was my points.
How is Alonso's surfware clothing line to do with racing?
DC had the Columbus Hotel Monaco while he was still racing (IIRC)

My point is that Hamilton is not unique in having non-racing side projects.

cuprabob

14,892 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Vaud said:
E34-3.2 said:
yes, their other projects are Motorsport based or other forms of racing. Hamilton projects have nothing to do with Motorsport or racing for the moment. that was my points.
DC had the Columbus Hotel Monaco while he was still racing (IIRC)
I'm sure DC also had a stake in Dakota hotels when they were launched.

London424

12,830 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Gaz. said:
CanoeSniffer said:
I think this may be one of the things that rubs people up the wrong way about Hamilton- I don't see him in any other form of Motorsport once he retires, nor participating in any historic racing. My belief is that he'll continue down the path of being some self-styled status symbol or whatever it is they're described as, basically will continue to emulate Justin Bieber, Kanye West, etc.

He just doesn't seem to be a petrolhead at heart, I'm sure he loves being in the car but I feel that he could shrug off racing at a glance and go record pop music instead. Maybe it's just aspirational thinking but as a mere mortal watching in awe at these drivers' abilities I so desperately believe that our heroes should live, breathe and bleed motor racing, and it's easy to percieve that most of the drivers on the grid do- just not Lewis.

I'm only theorising here rather than trying to slander, and I live to be proven wrong. I would love to see Lewis genuinely excited to drive some madcap wieldy historic like the touring car boys who seem to absolutely adore the experience of Goodwood, it'd be very endearing to see.
For someone who isn't a petrolhead at heart he's got one hell of a car collection: 1966 Cobra 427, 1967 Mustang Shelby GT500CR, Ferrari La Ferrari, Ferrari 599 GTO, Ferrari 599 SA Aperta, Mclaren P1, Porsche 991 Turbo, Pagani Zonda 760LH, Pagani Zonda 760RS (I don't think that stands for Ralf Schumacher) Mercedes SL-Black, Mercedes SLS Black, Merc G55, Merc S600, Maybach 6, Mercedes CLK-GTR roadster.
Not forgetting his motorbike link ups either.

You only have to listen to people in the paddock that only knew/see Ham from what you get in the media, compared to when they start working with him. They had no clue how hard he works.

I was watching him drive Billy M round the track earlier this year and in talking he asked Billy if he took notes. Ham takes notes on every day at every track so he can go back through them in the future when needed.

HighwayStar

4,383 posts

146 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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cuprabob said:
Vaud said:
E34-3.2 said:
yes, their other projects are Motorsport based or other forms of racing. Hamilton projects have nothing to do with Motorsport or racing for the moment. that was my points.
DC had the Columbus Hotel Monaco while he was still racing (IIRC)
I'm sure DC also had a stake in Dakota hotels when they were launched.
And Whisper Films, a sports production company set up with Jake Humphrey and others. Lots of projects and clients, including the production of CH4 F1 coverage. Channel have also taken a stake.
https://www.whisperfilms.co.uk/

Lewis has said he will leave motorsport at the end of his F1 career. He has other interest, music and fashion.
And he is most definitely a petrol head, as others have pointed out. His Pagani Zonda 760 was built with a proper manual transmission at his requested. 7.3l, V12 and a 3rd pedal!!! Without question a petrol head.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Gaz. said:
For someone who isn't a petrolhead at heart he's got one hell of a car collection: 1966 Cobra 427, 1967 Mustang Shelby GT500CR, Ferrari La Ferrari, Ferrari 599 GTO, Ferrari 599 SA Aperta, Mclaren P1, Porsche 991 Turbo, Pagani Zonda 760LH, Pagani Zonda 760RS (I don't think that stands for Ralf Schumacher) Mercedes SL-Black, Mercedes SLS Black, Merc G55, Merc S600, Maybach 6, Mercedes CLK-GTR roadster.
Clearly a petrol head but also being smart. These cars will only increase in price "unless there is an 80's style drop" so he will only make more money.



anonymous-user

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56 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Vaud said:
How is Alonso's surfware clothing line to do with racing?
DC had the Columbus Hotel Monaco while he was still racing (IIRC)

My point is that Hamilton is not unique in having non-racing side projects.
Eddie Irvine did extremely well after F1 with his business interests. Ok he purchased property during his career in F1 but he did extremely well.

He said F1 gave him a huge insight on how to run a successful business when he had his time at Ferrari. He said at the time he took Jean Todt etc. for granted but then saw the other side when he joined Jaguar who were "in his words" terrible.

But to be fair money makes money.

It you can affords to buy property and exotic cars outright you will be set for life.

Still it can go wrong if you have people investing for you.


anonymous-user

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56 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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I wonder what is actually going on behind the scenes at Mercedes considering their far from perfect start to 2018.

Is Hamilton waiting to see how good the car is this year before signing a new contract?

If the car is not up to the past few years will he consider continuing beyond 2018?

Or he will just win this weekend and be back to normal biggrin

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anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Bernie's take on Hamilton.

Hamilton was on fire in Australia and should have won. But since then things seems to have gone South.

Is he lacking desire or is the car just not working for him.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/894648/1/ecclestone-...

Kraken

1,710 posts

202 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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It's the tyres. He hasn't got a handle on the new ones yet. It's always taken him longer to adapt to new tyres that are away from his preference than his peers do

MartinVert

46 posts

77 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Interestin'
how when Hamilton doesn't win
His army of apologists begin
To express their chagrin
with a plethora of built in
Excuses designed to underpin
The idea that somehow he's oppressed, that he's the best
driver
Suggestin' protest, acting like the sport's regressed, requesting another road test
Why not just take it on the chin?

If the man can't outwit
the pit
strategy of Vettel
His fans come out throwing a fit
'It was unfair' they cry about this
tax hypocrite
Submitting emitting unfit bits of guff about how it shouldn't be permitted
How do you not get it?

HustleRussell

24,803 posts

162 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Don’t give up your day job hehe

Stan the Bat

9,010 posts

214 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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That is his day job.
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