Christian Horner

Christian Horner

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nickfrog

21,314 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March
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Purosangue said:
Art Keller said:
Purosangue said:
Never under estimate the power of alcohol
exactly Horner must have had Beer glasses on
Could you please post your mug shot for context?

anonymous_user

2,620 posts

179 months

Monday 4th March
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nickfrog said:
Purosangue said:
Art Keller said:
Purosangue said:
Never under estimate the power of alcohol
exactly Horner must have had Beer glasses on
Could you please post your mug shot for context?
context? ...or off to the plane toilet for a crafty one?

road hog

2,562 posts

214 months

Monday 4th March
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In reality the racing has become so boring and predictable, it seems we need smut and allegations to keep everyone interested in the sport.

jasonrobertson86

620 posts

5 months

Monday 4th March
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road hog said:
In reality the racing has become so boring and predictable, it seems we need smut and allegations to keep everyone interested in the sport.
Allegations? Did you see the messages?

road hog

2,562 posts

214 months

Monday 4th March
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jasonrobertson86 said:
Allegations? Did you see the messages?
It's getting almost as boring/predictable as the racing.
Media generated waffle.

PRO 5T

4,031 posts

26 months

Monday 4th March
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4.7AMV8 said:
The thing I don’t get is screenshots were being taken when CH was typing and some of the dates were from 2021. As others have said, she is hardly the little girl simp, not if she has “survived” in F1 industry so long. I think she saved them for a break glass in emergency moment. Moving on she gets involved with JV and over a race weekend Premier Inn mixed grill JV mentions “if only someone had something on Horner”!
She pulls out here non RBR issued IPhone 19 and viola!
From what I've heard (and it is all second hand so take as many pinches of salt as you like), Horner is genuinely unliked by a lot of people within the sport and the Red Bull team and is well known for his behaviour-to the point that I've heard his wife is aware of some of what he gets up to. Whether that means she's OK with it I don't know.

I do know however there was some degree of "overlap" between Verstappen and Horny which may explain why things turned a bit nasty once the PA nailed her colours to Jos' mast.

Now I don't want any of that to sound like victim blaming, just because you had sex with someone, no matter how many times it doesn't give you the right to keep pestering them for more if they decline your advances.

jasonrobertson86

620 posts

5 months

Monday 4th March
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road hog said:
It's getting almost as boring/predictable as the racing.
Media generated waffle.
Did you see the messages?

GT9

6,836 posts

173 months

Monday 4th March
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We've all seen the messages, 50 pages ago.
Some people are tripping over themselves to claim them as irrefutable proof of criminality.
Some aren't.
Moving on.

motco

15,993 posts

247 months

Monday 4th March
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4.7AMV8 said:
The thing I don’t get is screenshots were being taken when CH was typing and some of the dates were from 2021. As others have said, she is hardly the little girl simp, not if she has “survived” in F1 industry so long. I think she saved them for a break glass in emergency moment. Moving on she gets involved with JV and over a race weekend Premier Inn mixed grill JV mentions “if only someone had something on Horner”!
She pulls out here non RBR issued IPhone 19 and viola!
They are her equivalent of an embarrassing stain on her dress. *Nods to Monica*

PlywoodPascal

4,322 posts

22 months

Monday 4th March
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It’s weird how the discussion has veered away from the (in my view) most scandalous development yet - that the president of the FIA asked Max Verstappen to publicly back CHristian Horner.

- why would the FIA president intervene in an internal team matter?
- why would he wish to reinforce the position of someone who did what Horner has done?
- in what world is it appropriate for the FIA president to support competitors like this?

Wills2

23,070 posts

176 months

Monday 4th March
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nickfrog said:
Purosangue said:
Art Keller said:
Purosangue said:
Never under estimate the power of alcohol
exactly Horner must have had Beer glasses on
Could you please post your mug shot for context?
Easy Christian, this is what got you into trouble in the first place.



CanAm

9,302 posts

273 months

Monday 4th March
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p1stonhead said:
Apparently it’s Toto

CH 8th and 2nd out of the current lot. Still up there.

But that data only goes up to the Spanish GP of 2019, so , much as I dislike Horner, his stats are now much improved.

nickfrog

21,314 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March
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Wills2 said:
Easy Christian, this is what got you into trouble in the first place.

biglaugh

The difference being that I know it's never going to happen.

Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March
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Purosangue said:
davidd said:
wevster said:
Thanks, lots like 'race to Miami has now been removed...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20196566/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk


Christ what a fking munter

https://youlaif.com/who-is-fiona-hewitson-christia...
Really?
https://i.4cdn.org/sp/1709265585141030.jpg

GT9

6,836 posts

173 months

Monday 4th March
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Is it really necessary to keep posting these links and marking her out of 10?
FFS, this is exactly the sort of behaviour that anyone who finds distaste in this whole episode should be condemning.

Tim the pool man

4,884 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March
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PlywoodPascal said:
It’s weird how the discussion has veered away from the (in my view) most scandalous development yet - that the president of the FIA asked Max Verstappen to publicly back CHristian Horner.

- why would the FIA president intervene in an internal team matter?
- why would he wish to reinforce the position of someone who did what Horner has done?
- in what world is it appropriate for the FIA president to support competitors like this?
IMO the most odious person in this entire saga is JV. F1 will lose nothing if he disappears, and seems like a lot of people agree. Perhaps MBS is encouraging MV to show support to CH and distance himself from JVs comments and interference?

Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March
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TheDeuce said:
I see your point, and it's always been obvious it's a carefully curated set of messages that has been shared.
Except that if there other messages that proved Horney's innocence then why didn't he come out with them when the initial drop and storm happened. Would have been easy to disprove everything then, whilst simply admitting to a brief fling.

Rather than "it's always been obvious it's a carefully curated set of messages that has been shared." and the continuous attempts to excuse Horney, it's really the case that there isn't anymore evidence... One was expecting something to come out to excuse Horneys behaviour, s but nothing

RB, RB Racing, Horney thought they could just brush it all under the carpet and still seem to be trying to do the same.

Forester1965

1,800 posts

4 months

Monday 4th March
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PlywoodPascal said:
It’s weird how the discussion has veered away from the (in my view) most scandalous development yet - that the president of the FIA asked Max Verstappen to publicly back CHristian Horner.

- why would the FIA president intervene in an internal team matter?
- why would he wish to reinforce the position of someone who did what Horner has done?
- in what world is it appropriate for the FIA president to support competitors like this?
None of them want to kill the golden goose that is F1. That's why AD '21 was brushed under the carpet. Why Ferrari cheating with their engine was brushed under the carpet. Why the Red Bull cost cap breach was allowed to become a story about sandwiches and the penalty so light.

Ultimately they'll fight like cats and dogs amongst themselves, until it spills over to the outside world and the wagons are circled.

Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March
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PlywoodPascal said:
It’s weird how the discussion has veered away from the (in my view) most scandalous development yet - that the president of the FIA asked Max Verstappen to publicly back CHristian Horner.

- why would the FIA president intervene in an internal team matter?
- why would he wish to reinforce the position of someone who did what Horner has done?
- in what world is it appropriate for the FIA president to support competitors like this?
Surely it's the constantly changing story.

It was supposed to be about Horny's aggressive management style - that turned out to be a lie
The we found out Horny offered £650k and an NDA to keep her quiet
Then that RB found no evidence to support the claims against Horny

Then the evidence dropped, showing they'd been trying to downplay and manage it all along...
Horny's protected for the moment, they want him in the position, so he won't be going anywhere. Very embarrassing for him though, and for RB and their reputation. It rather looks like they'd do anything to protect that

Leithen

11,025 posts

268 months

Monday 4th March
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Byker28i said:
TheDeuce said:
I see your point, and it's always been obvious it's a carefully curated set of messages that has been shared.
Except that if there other messages that proved Horney's innocence then why didn't he come out with them when the initial drop and storm happened. Would have been easy to disprove everything then, whilst simply admitting to a brief fling.

Rather than "it's always been obvious it's a carefully curated set of messages that has been shared." and the continuous attempts to excuse Horney, it's really the case that there isn't anymore evidence... One was expecting something to come out to excuse Horneys behaviour, s but nothing

RB, RB Racing, Horney thought they could just brush it all under the carpet and still seem to be trying to do the same.
The problem is that it clearly isn't a binary guilty/innocent scenario. Even if there have been no laws broken (employment or other), there's the court of public opinion, where some will shudder at the thought of anything extra marital and others will just shrug.

Then throw in the leak of the the messages and images, which quite possibly contain a mixture of genuine and fake, and however much you like or dislike Horner, he's never going to come out and try and defend any of this.

Instead this will be resolved at some point between Thailand and Austria. At which point everyone including Horner will do exactly what they are told.