Official 2019 Chinese Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
rallycross said:
Chuck leCluck showed he is a proper racer when Bottas came to pass on fresh tyres and using DRS and Charles did a great job tending him off as long as he could - good to see.
Agreed, the amount of time you see someone jumping out the way of a faster car like it's a blue flag is a joke (I'm looking at you Bottas), where is the sport in that?!"oh he's on a different strategy, no point holding him up" says Martin Brundle. Shame for LEC today but he should have made a deal on the radio;
"yeah I'll let him past but if he doesn't gap me by 2.5 seconds I want it back".
E34-3.2 said:
I think that if Ferrari is not getting their act together, Bottas might have a chance to get the title. A DNF from Hamilton or a couple of bad races and Bottas is well into the points.
Possible but I suspect not (and hope not if I'm being honest).Bottas looked totally deflated when Brundle interviewed him after the race, he knew he'd had a chance to open up a bit of a points gap to Hamilton and blew it, he won't have too many chances (probably) if any unreliabilty is evenly shared between them.
Hamilton seems to improve as the season goes on, Bottas seems to fade and I don't think he can mix it wheel to wheel with Hamilton despite the comments he (Bottas) made in Bahrain.
Norfolkit said:
Possible but I suspect not (and hope not if I'm being honest).
Bottas looked totally deflated when Brundle interviewed him after the race, he knew he'd had a chance to open up a bit of a points gap to Hamilton and blew it, he won't have too many chances (probably) if any unreliabilty is evenly shared between them.
Hamilton seems to improve as the season goes on, Bottas seems to fade and I don't think he can mix it wheel to wheel with Hamilton despite the comments he (Bottas) made in Bahrain.
Let's hope for a battle between the two Mercs. It's looking possible, maybe more so than one between the two Ferrari drivers. There's one RB driver at the moments so that's a non-starter. Bottas looked totally deflated when Brundle interviewed him after the race, he knew he'd had a chance to open up a bit of a points gap to Hamilton and blew it, he won't have too many chances (probably) if any unreliabilty is evenly shared between them.
Hamilton seems to improve as the season goes on, Bottas seems to fade and I don't think he can mix it wheel to wheel with Hamilton despite the comments he (Bottas) made in Bahrain.
The midfield has been fun, really exciting at times, so if it is a bit dull at the front, there's still enough to get excited about.
Flooble said:
Eric Mc said:
What's the "1,000th race" they are celebrating"?
https://jalopnik.com/why-f1s-1000th-race-isnt-actu...The 1000th World Championship Grand Prix (minus the 11 Indy 500 races) is at Monza.
The 1000th World Championship Grand Prix for Formula One cars will be sometime in the middle of next year (17 races after Monza 2019).
E34-3.2 said:
I think that if Ferrari is not getting their act together, Bottas might have a chance to get the title. A DNF from Hamilton or a couple of bad races and Bottas is well into the points.
Really? Not a chance imo. Unless Hamilton has some massive bad luck that rules him out Bottas will be second. Fire99 said:
I also think it's fair to say that there was a lot of fuss about the 2019 season being different and much closer with regard to racing etc and to be honest, it's pretty much 2018 again to a tee. Too much hype compared to the actual outcomes.
Despite the Mercedes 1-2s the first two races were definitely above average and the cars have appeared to be able to follow much closer. Maybe the wind was the issue in China but the cars just didn't seem to be able to race, it's very unusual for even the midfield to be relatively quiet.That's the end of my live races for now. Will be switching back to C4 highlights only until probably Canada.
Race was a bit meh to be honest. Disappointed that Ferrari were nowhere and disappointed that they shafted CLC for their preferred driver.
I can't think of anything defining from the race. Shame really as China is usually a good one.
Oh well, onto Indycar now and Long Beach in half an hour.
Race was a bit meh to be honest. Disappointed that Ferrari were nowhere and disappointed that they shafted CLC for their preferred driver.
I can't think of anything defining from the race. Shame really as China is usually a good one.
Oh well, onto Indycar now and Long Beach in half an hour.
funkyrobot said:
That's the end of my live races for now. Will be switching back to C4 highlights only until probably Canada.
Race was a bit meh to be honest. Disappointed that Ferrari were nowhere and disappointed that they shafted CLC for their preferred driver.
I can't think of anything defining from the race. Shame really as China is usually a good one.
Oh well, onto Indycar now and Long Beach in half an hour.
Can't argue at all with what you have stated.Race was a bit meh to be honest. Disappointed that Ferrari were nowhere and disappointed that they shafted CLC for their preferred driver.
I can't think of anything defining from the race. Shame really as China is usually a good one.
Oh well, onto Indycar now and Long Beach in half an hour.
Delighted I have not gone for Sky and sticking to C4 highlights.
Shame there were no highlights.
Eric Mc said:
Really?
I bet it isn't.
It's the 1000th championship race, a few different journos have already gone through and checking that this weekend really was the 1000th and once you take out the none championship F1 races between Silverstone 1950 and now they've all accepted that it is. I bet it isn't.
Is it a marketing gimmick as well? Definitely but get used to that, I genuinely don't believe Liberty really know what they've bought and will keep on coming up with gimmicks until they have some clue what to actually do with it.
I don't wish to sound like someone who just complains about F1, but I thought the thousandth race (#F1000 or whatever it was called) fell a little short. Whilst I love how Liberty have brought F1 into the modern age, rather than the Bernie method of banning all social media, I think they missed a major opportunity here.
I remember the first US GP under Liberty. They had the KFC guy come out to introduce all the drivers one-by-one and had a WWF style face-off between Vettel and Hamilton. Hyped it up a touch. Today's race involved a few little pieces before the race and some throwaway comments from the pundits. Some fireworks, graphics or other bits to celebrate would have been nice. I remember seeing a quote from Senna in the room of awkwardness, be nice to have a piece involving his legacy rather than a bit of ink on a wall that a lot of casual viewers wouldn't appreciate.
The race itself for me was a little predictable, in fairness having worked until 4am last night and then again from 10am today I dozed off during the race. Did I enjoy the race? No. Do I hate F1? No. Will I watch the next race in good faith? Yes.
Nothing wrong with having a moan when a race isn't as good as you expect it to be. I still love the sport, I just can't see why anybody who criticises a race suddenly becomes a "hater" rather than someone having a good old British moan.
I remember the first US GP under Liberty. They had the KFC guy come out to introduce all the drivers one-by-one and had a WWF style face-off between Vettel and Hamilton. Hyped it up a touch. Today's race involved a few little pieces before the race and some throwaway comments from the pundits. Some fireworks, graphics or other bits to celebrate would have been nice. I remember seeing a quote from Senna in the room of awkwardness, be nice to have a piece involving his legacy rather than a bit of ink on a wall that a lot of casual viewers wouldn't appreciate.
The race itself for me was a little predictable, in fairness having worked until 4am last night and then again from 10am today I dozed off during the race. Did I enjoy the race? No. Do I hate F1? No. Will I watch the next race in good faith? Yes.
Nothing wrong with having a moan when a race isn't as good as you expect it to be. I still love the sport, I just can't see why anybody who criticises a race suddenly becomes a "hater" rather than someone having a good old British moan.
Exige77 said:
Teddy Lop said:
People who log on to a forum and post on a thread to say they don't like it and won't watch it - are you the same people who have loud speakerphone conversations with your friends on busses and other public places?
I don’t get it either. If it’s boring why bitter coming on a discussion forum about it ?
Quite a number of people love the sport, but are bored by its current incarnation due to its poor management and rule setting.
Hence they are airing their frustration.
Second Best said:
I don't wish to sound like someone who just complains about F1, but I thought the thousandth race (#F1000 or whatever it was called) fell a little short. Whilst I love how Liberty have brought F1 into the modern age, rather than the Bernie method of banning all social media, I think they missed a major opportunity here.
I remember the first US GP under Liberty. They had the KFC guy come out to introduce all the drivers one-by-one and had a WWF style face-off between Vettel and Hamilton. Hyped it up a touch. Today's race involved a few little pieces before the race and some throwaway comments from the pundits. Some fireworks, graphics or other bits to celebrate would have been nice. I remember seeing a quote from Senna in the room of awkwardness, be nice to have a piece involving his legacy rather than a bit of ink on a wall that a lot of casual viewers wouldn't appreciate.
The race itself for me was a little predictable, in fairness having worked until 4am last night and then again from 10am today I dozed off during the race. Did I enjoy the race? No. Do I hate F1? No. Will I watch the next race in good faith? Yes.
Nothing wrong with having a moan when a race isn't as good as you expect it to be. I still love the sport, I just can't see why anybody who criticises a race suddenly becomes a "hater" rather than someone having a good old British moan.
Tacky as that first US gp was, I'd have rather had that yesterday than the half hearted effort there was. From all the hype leading up to it, I was expecting dancing girls, fireworks, flypasts and the marching military might of China prancing down the pit straight. Chase Carey was at Le Mans a few years ago and said he wanted to bring some of that spectacle to F1. Looks like they have a way to go yet.I remember the first US GP under Liberty. They had the KFC guy come out to introduce all the drivers one-by-one and had a WWF style face-off between Vettel and Hamilton. Hyped it up a touch. Today's race involved a few little pieces before the race and some throwaway comments from the pundits. Some fireworks, graphics or other bits to celebrate would have been nice. I remember seeing a quote from Senna in the room of awkwardness, be nice to have a piece involving his legacy rather than a bit of ink on a wall that a lot of casual viewers wouldn't appreciate.
The race itself for me was a little predictable, in fairness having worked until 4am last night and then again from 10am today I dozed off during the race. Did I enjoy the race? No. Do I hate F1? No. Will I watch the next race in good faith? Yes.
Nothing wrong with having a moan when a race isn't as good as you expect it to be. I still love the sport, I just can't see why anybody who criticises a race suddenly becomes a "hater" rather than someone having a good old British moan.
DanielSan said:
Eric Mc said:
Really?
I bet it isn't.
It's the 1000th championship race, a few different journos have already gone through and checking that this weekend really was the 1000th and once you take out the none championship F1 races between Silverstone 1950 and now they've all accepted that it is. I bet it isn't.
Is it a marketing gimmick as well? Definitely but get used to that, I genuinely don't believe Liberty really know what they've bought and will keep on coming up with gimmicks until they have some clue what to actually do with it.
If they are celebrating 1,000 races since the first round of the World Drivers Championship was held, then those races should be included.
If they are celebrating 1,000 GP races held since the advent of F1, then they should be going back to at least 1948 , two years before the WDC commenced.
And, of course, we have long since surpassed 1,000 GPs as that would have started a clock ticking in 1906.
I just wanted a bit of clarity as to what they were using as the kick off point for the "1,000th" and what was being included or excluded from the listing.
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