The Official Japanese GP 2019 **Spoilers**

The Official Japanese GP 2019 **Spoilers**

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Deesee

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8,495 posts

85 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Big Nanas said:
Deesee said:
I’d say the sensor was probably not working, but we need a side pit wall camera like Moto GP.
Well they covered this during the race and Ted again confirmed what the official statement was.
Vettle moves, he admitted it was his error but he didn’t move past the white line which wasn’t enough to trigger the sensor.
That’s fair isn’t it?
The stewards can’t really do anything right can they. ‘Too strict/too lenient’


Here’s the official line..

No mention of the track sensor?

We now have tolerance it would seem, where before I’m sure we had a penalty previously for anticipating the lights (as human reaction times are factored in too).

& they had to rely on the onboard GPS transponder.

I’m in favour of the Moto GP system, it’s hard but fair for the field.

Seb gained no advantage but give these guys an inch...

pits

6,429 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Anyone know what's happened to Norris with Fantasy F1.
Max doesn't finish -4 points
Norris does finish -3 points.

It can't be done on position lost because Max lost them all, the actual Fantasy F1 site must be updated by Crofty, it's as awful as he is.


Sensible from stewards, but I remember team radio, Ferrari telling Charles to come in repeatedly and Charles saying "no I'll stay out longer"

ukaskew

10,642 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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"and then by telling the driver to remain out for an additional lap after telling the race director otherwise"

I'm guessing that's why the race director didn't feel the need to get the flag out. Very naughty and quite a light punishment considering what could have been.

Still can't get my head around Albon not being investigated though...

Deesee

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8,495 posts

85 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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It ain’t over yet..

Racing point have delivered a 12 page document on Renaults “illegal” brakes..

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

129 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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I'm beginning to grow a little tired of LeClerc. He's obviously an extremely talented driver and no doubt a nice fella, but the shine is starting to wear off a little with me. Far too much whining in previous races and today driving around the track at full speed whilst spraying parts of his car all over the circuit and other drivers. Not really on, especially since the contact was of his own making.

Not really sure how I feel about Vettel's jump start.

FourWheelDrift

88,739 posts

286 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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My Sky box didn't record qualifying irked but just watched the race. Now did I watch the same race because I'm sure I saw Perez crash on the last lap, in which case why is he still listed as 9th ahead of Hulkenberg and Stroll who were all in the same pack racing each and passed him when he crashed?

https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2019/race...

You can even see Hulkenberg pass him in the background in this video clip. https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2019/10/Japanese...

??

Big Nanas

1,444 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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I’m not sure it’s been mentioned, but I’m glad to see Vettle have a good qually session (track record I think?) and then manage to not spin/make an error whilst keeping a fast Lewis behind in the last few laps.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
My Sky box didn't record qualifying irked but just watched the race. Now did I watch the same race because I'm sure I saw Perez crash on the last lap, in which case why is he still listed as 9th ahead of Hulkenberg and Stroll who were all in the same pack racing each and passed him when he crashed?

https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2019/race...

You can even see Hulkenberg pass him in the background in this video clip. https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2019/10/Japanese...

??
They accidentally ended the race a lap early, system error I think.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

112 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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ukaskew said:
They accidentally ended the race a lap early, system error I think.
You know what? I thought that as well, but assumed I was being stupid due to lack of sleep!

Big Nanas

1,444 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Deesee said:


Here’s the official line..

No mention of the track sensor?

We now have tolerance it would seem, where before I’m sure we had a penalty previously for anticipating the lights (as human reaction times are factored in too).

& they had to rely on the onboard GPS transponder.

I’m in favour of the Moto GP system, it’s hard but fair for the field.

Seb gained no advantage but give these guys an inch...
Yes I suppose. I guess the other thing is that Vettle was not moving at actual lights out, which may have helped the decision.

Deesee

Original Poster:

8,495 posts

85 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Deesee said:
It ain’t over yet..

Racing point have delivered a 12 page document on Renaults “illegal” brakes..
Enstone team cheating biglaugh well they do have a bit of form for that..

Parts sealed and expect an answer in the week from the FIA.




FourWheelDrift

88,739 posts

286 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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JonChalk said:
ukaskew said:
They accidentally ended the race a lap early, system error I think.
You know what? I thought that as well, but assumed I was being stupid due to lack of sleep!
They didn't have Winnie Harlow waving the flag again did they?

Deesee

Original Poster:

8,495 posts

85 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Lewis Hamilton adjusting the steering as the end plate approaches... superHuman

https://reddit.app.link/kvk6ad3EK0

Flooble

5,565 posts

102 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Has anyone worked out the WDC permutations yet?

64 point gap with 104 points available

If Bottas manages 4 first places and fastest laps, Hamilton needs to finish in at least fifth place at each race.

If Hamilton has a DNF in one of those races, then he needs two thirds and a fourth in the other three races.

If Bottas is only able to manage second places (but still achieves fastest laps) Hamilton needs three 8th place finishes.

So while it's not over, it is no longer enough for Bottas to win all the remaining races; he also really needs the resurgent Ferraris to somehow not be able to beat him but keep Hamilton behind them and Hamilton to have a DNF.

I think it's beyond even Mercedes strategy team to achieve that result.

Big Nanas

1,444 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Flooble said:
I think it's beyond even Mercedes strategy team to achieve that result.
It’s ok, they’ll have Ferrari’s strategists to beat wink

iandc

3,724 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Flooble said:
Has anyone worked out the WDC permutations yet?

64 point gap with 104 points available

If Bottas manages 4 first places and fastest laps, Hamilton needs to finish in at least fifth place at each race.

If Hamilton has a DNF in one of those races, then he needs two thirds and a fourth in the other three races.

If Bottas is only able to manage second places (but still achieves fastest laps) Hamilton needs three 8th place finishes.

So while it's not over, it is no longer enough for Bottas to win all the remaining races; he also really needs the resurgent Ferraris to somehow not be able to beat him but keep Hamilton behind them and Hamilton to have a DNF.

I think it's beyond even Mercedes strategy team to achieve that result.
If it was the other way round Ferrari would manage it!!!

TheDeuce

22,390 posts

68 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Deesee said:
Lewis Hamilton adjusting the steering as the end plate approaches... superHuman

https://reddit.app.link/kvk6ad3EK0
Wow, that's some high speed slalom action!

TheDeuce

22,390 posts

68 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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If Renault are found to be mapping their brake bias wouldn't that be a pretty big deal? Not only because it's outright cheating, but also because getting beaten by your own customer team looks worse than ever if they managed it while you were cheating!

If it's true, how embarrassing..

Big Nanas

1,444 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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I saw a twitter video (in car) of Leclerc holding on to his broken mirror whilst driving one handed around 130R! Impressive

mattikake

5,062 posts

201 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Man merc's strategy calls bug the hell out of me. That was either brainless or an engineered win for bottas.

Is it a requirement for a merc race strategist to be a gunshot to the head survivor or something?