Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

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swisstoni

17,355 posts

281 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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M5-911 said:
RB Will said:
Let us not forget who put who in hospital (and got a penalty for it before we all start arguing over blame again)
I can't remember a driver putting another one in hospital. I just remember a crash which was avoidable if the driver on the outside of the corner will have open his steering instead of turning into the one who was under steering.

Race director explained very well the next day that the reason Max didn't get a penalty for that crash was because he penalised himself by crashing so it was only fair to penalised Hamilton as well as both were responsible.
One of a long list of poor judgement calls by Masi.

Just because Verstappen ended up out of the race, it should not have absolved him of punishment.

It’s like not getting sent off in football because you hurt yourself as well.

deadslow

8,064 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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swisstoni said:
M5-911 said:
RB Will said:
Let us not forget who put who in hospital (and got a penalty for it before we all start arguing over blame again)
I can't remember a driver putting another one in hospital. I just remember a crash which was avoidable if the driver on the outside of the corner will have open his steering instead of turning into the one who was under steering.

Race director explained very well the next day that the reason Max didn't get a penalty for that crash was because he penalised himself by crashing so it was only fair to penalised Hamilton as well as both were responsible.
One of a long list of poor judgement calls by Masi.

Just because Verstappen ended up out of the race, it should not have absolved him of punishment.

It’s like not getting sent off in football because you hurt yourself as well.
was the punishment and apportioning of blame not done by the Stewards?

Sandpit Steve

10,555 posts

76 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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swisstoni said:
At least he didn’t end up with a car on his head did he?
If that was the other way around Horner (and no doubt you) would have had a coronary.
That was the only moment of the whole season, where Horner looked a little sheepish in front of the media.

Just imagine if the events of Abu Dhabi had played out as they did - but with the first two cars swapped, Max in front for the whole race except the last half lap.

PhilAsia

3,993 posts

77 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
swisstoni said:
At least he didn’t end up with a car on his head did he?
If that was the other way around Horner (and no doubt you) would have had a coronary.
That was the only moment of the whole season, where Horner looked a little sheepish in front of the media.

Just imagine if the events of Abu Dhabi had played out as they did - but with the first two cars swapped, Max in front for the whole race except the last half lap.
Is it because Horner is relying on the average F1 fan*** not to have an enquiring mind, and as such can bs it out?

Brake check - they don't understand it is normally a DSQ.
Run off into the Favelas - they don't understand he shouldn't force Lewis six car widths off track.
Copse - they don't understand Max could have been more circumspect and avoided a potential understeering Lewis.
Etc
Monza - Ah!! Damn..They might "get" this is not quite within the rules...

  • *the average (new/drive to survive) fan seems to want to be spoon fed with BS...

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

137 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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paulguitar said:
5,234g.

Max also was also killed 56 times, whilst Hamilton dined on lobster and champagne, laughing hysterically, whilst wearing a cape.
And don’t forget max and red bull celebrating while Mazepin had to be driven away from the circuit (maybe be a chauffeur, possibly in an ambulance, could have been a hearse, who knows) with the deadly COVID.

No tweets from Mazepin moaning about the celebrations though. Because Mazepin has more class.

Wombat3

12,397 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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Its good marketing but nonetheless, when bookmakers go this far you know the FIA has some questions to answer....

https://news.paddypower.com/formula-1/2021/12/12/m...

swisstoni

17,355 posts

281 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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Wombat3 said:
Its good marketing but nonetheless, when bookmakers go this far you know the FIA has some questions to answer....

https://news.paddypower.com/formula-1/2021/12/12/m...
Has anything like that happened before?
I’m not in to betting but I’ve certainly never heard of it.

PhilAsia

3,993 posts

77 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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swisstoni said:
Wombat3 said:
Its good marketing but nonetheless, when bookmakers go this far you know the FIA has some questions to answer....

https://news.paddypower.com/formula-1/2021/12/12/m...
Has anything like that happened before?
I’m not in to betting but I’ve certainly never heard of it.
I believe they have done it with sport before and the US elections...

Digga

40,598 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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PhilAsia said:
swisstoni said:
Wombat3 said:
Its good marketing but nonetheless, when bookmakers go this far you know the FIA has some questions to answer....

https://news.paddypower.com/formula-1/2021/12/12/m...
Has anything like that happened before?
I’m not in to betting but I’ve certainly never heard of it.
I believe they have done it with sport before and the US elections...
So basically, where there is other evidence or suspicion of foul play or tampering.

Great marketing and I like the thrust of their logic.

Megaflow

9,525 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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At first I wasn’t sure what he’d do, and I would not have been surprised in the slightest if he walked away.

Mercedes then posted this to their Twitter account a few days ago, and I thought it could be a hint he is staying or it could just be a coincidence:


Now they have just posted this:


He is staying.

Digga

40,598 posts

285 months

cuprabob

14,919 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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vdn

8,959 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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Digga said:
Brilliant!

Maxdecel

1,323 posts

35 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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Digga said:
clap
Thanks for posting, it's a cracker.

QuattroDave

1,514 posts

130 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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Digga said:
Ha Brilliant!

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Wombat3 said:
Its good marketing but nonetheless, when bookmakers go this far you know the FIA has some questions to answer....

https://news.paddypower.com/formula-1/2021/12/12/m...
Honestly, it's just marketing.

Nothing more or less. Don't read too much into it.

M5-911

1,374 posts

47 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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C70R said:
Wombat3 said:
Its good marketing but nonetheless, when bookmakers go this far you know the FIA has some questions to answer....

https://news.paddypower.com/formula-1/2021/12/12/m...
Honestly, it's just marketing.

Nothing more or less. Don't read too much into it.
Marketing yes but so many people have heard of that controversial decision (I am talking of non F1 fans) and surely many in that marketing team must have thought that yes it is a great marketing opportunity but a great way to support who is the real champion to the eye of the general public. Great way to take a dig at the FIA.

Bo_apex

2,628 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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M5-911 said:
Marketing yes but so many people have heard of that controversial decision (I am talking of non F1 fans) and surely many in that marketing team must have thought that yes it is a great marketing opportunity but a great way to support who is the real champion to the eye of the general public. Great way to take a dig at the FIA.
Real champion ?

Who do you consider the real champion in 1989. Prost or Senna ?

M5-911

1,374 posts

47 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Bo_apex said:
Real champion ?

Who do you consider the real champion in 1989. Prost or Senna ?
Prost.

Bo_apex

2,628 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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M5-911 said:
Bo_apex said:
Real champion ?

Who do you consider the real champion in 1989. Prost or Senna ?
Prost.
Despite the dubious decision by Balestre ?