The Official Japanese GP thread 2013

[Chrisgr31]

e21Mark said:

No denying his ability as a driver, but he just doesn't have much in the way of personality, not to mention multi 21.

Dunno think in the past he has shown a great personality however Multi 21 showed him in different light.

[VolvoT5]

That Horner interview basically just made it clear that Mark will be expected to move over if Vettel is behind and has a chance to complete the WDC win.... "They will do the best they can for the team"

[stew-S160]

Chrisgr31 said:

e21Mark said:

No denying his ability as a driver, but he just doesn't have much in the way of personality, not to mention multi 21.

Dunno think in the past he has shown a great personality however Multi 21 showed him in different light.

I think Seb as a person, outside of F1, is probably a really good guy. Just remember his appearance on Top Gear and other things, he's quite cool about things.
In F1 though I think he's becoming the one we're al going to love to hate and question his true ability due to the fact that the Red Bull car is an alien space ship compared to everyone elses wooden sail boats. The traction control thing, Multi21, preferential parts etc.

[heebeegeetee]

Chrisgr31 said:

Dunno think in the past he has shown a great personality however Multi 21 showed him in different light.

I think it showed him in the same light as every other top sportsman.

I think it's wet to worry about the No2 driver. That whole, enormous effort by RB is not about looking after the No 2 driver, it's about winning.

[the-photographer]

VolvoT5 said:

That Horner interview basically just made it clear that Mark will be expected to move over if Vettel is behind and has a chance to complete the WDC win.... "They will do the best they can for the team"

Webber to have "secondary clutch calibration failure" at the start, finishing the first lap seventh, Vettel to win by a country mile.

[Chrisgr31]

heebeegeetee said:

I think it showed him in the same light as every other top sportsman.

I think it's wet to worry about the No2 driver. That whole, enormous effort by RB is not about looking after the No 2 driver, it's about winning.

The teams interest is the Constructors title, as apart from anything else it gets them cash, so from a tams point of view it shouldn't matter who is 1 and who is 2. What you don't want is the drivers taking risks that could either result in them colliding, or breaking the car. Which is of course why they keep telling Vettel to be careful towards the end of races.

[A Scotsman]

So in order to placate the fans Vettel goes second instead of first. The only question now then is on which lap Webber will let him through.

[Derek Smith]

Webber might well move over to block Vettel at the start, leaving a gap for Hamilton to take advantage of. LH could get into the first corner first leaving the two RBs to squabble over the right to pass him first. It might be an exciting first couple of laps until DRS come on line.

[Qcarchoo]

the-photographer said:

Webber to have "secondary clutch calibration failure" at the start, finishing the first lap seventh, Vettel to win by a country mile.

That would be too obvious. It'll probably be KERS.

[valais]

I think Mark will just screw up the start, nothing to do with pseudo failures.

[E38Ross]

I presume all those saying it's boring won't be watching it tomorrow? Same sort of thing, I know some family members watch TV soaps. I don't, because I find them boring.

[Panda76]

Given that Mark is leaving F1 this year,has some contempt for Vettel and probably the team for unfavourable treatment in the past,and if he doesn't screw his start up ! I can't see him letting Vettel through.
Going to be a good start.

[E38Ross]

Panda76 said:

Given that Mark is leaving F1 this year,has some contempt for Vettel and probably the team for unfavourable treatment in the past,and if he doesn't screw his start up ! I can't see him letting Vettel through.
Going to be a good start.

he might not let him through but he'll get past.

He's a quicker driver and even if he can't pass on track, around pit stop time Vettel will pull in a lap quick enough to pass Webber that way if needs be.

I hope Vettel wins

[Jasandjules]

Well that was quite fun.

Those Red Bulls are clearly a class apart.

Am I the only one who thought Vettel was rather cool for saying ".....well you don't like the finger but I am who I am.....". Not to mention the radio call where they tried to get him to wave instead and he goes "Fingeeerrr!". Superb.

And who is going to give Hulkenberg a decent car FFS?

Not to mention Massa - another awesome job by him, when under such pressure too.

[e21Mark]

heebeegeetee said:

Chrisgr31 said:

Dunno think in the past he has shown a great personality however Multi 21 showed him in different light.

I think it showed him in the same light as every other top sportsman.

I think it's wet to worry about the No2 driver. That whole, enormous effort by RB is not about looking after the No 2 driver, it's about winning.

My understanding was that multi 21 was an agreement made as a team. I think it was a poor decision by Vettel, (to ignore it) that was compounded by his comments post race. I wouldn't say that is something done by every other top sportsman at all.

I hope Webber and Vettel get to go head to head tomorrow and that both cars last long enough for a good race between them.

[slipstream 1985]

so basicly swapped the numbers round on their cars last night when everyone was sleeping

[Mermaid]

slipstream 1985 said:

so basicly swapped the numbers round on their cars last night when everyone was sleeping

[MiniMan64]

I wonder if Mark will have a "radio failure" tomorrow...

[vonuber]

Good job by Massa and Hulk. Very poor by Alonso (again), although the Ferrari TC will help him off the line.

[RichB]

Jasandjules said:

Not to mention Massa - another awesome job by him, when under such pressure too.

On the contrary, I would have thought Massa is driving with no pressure at all.