The Official 2017 Spanish Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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Already confirmed as an oil leak - don't forget it will be easily 100 degrees, and they use some fairly thin viscosity to keep losses down, so plenty splashy.
Such a farce on Honda's front, I'm amazed they haven't just bailed out. That said, there was a good article on Autosport highlighting how ordinary they usually are. The turbo 80s period was the only time they've really been any good.
Such a farce on Honda's front, I'm amazed they haven't just bailed out. That said, there was a good article on Autosport highlighting how ordinary they usually are. The turbo 80s period was the only time they've really been any good.
What I don't get is that we've had 3 years of this now and it seems to be getting worse rather than better. If the car was fast when it runs that would be something, or even reliable but a bit off the pace.
Where are the signs this will get fixed, a company with Honda's resources should be better than this. If I was McLaren, at this stage I'd be looking for a way out. Almost anything is better, even going begging to Mercedes for a supply and re-establishing themselves as competent because right now I am starting to fear for their survival if something does not change.
Where are the signs this will get fixed, a company with Honda's resources should be better than this. If I was McLaren, at this stage I'd be looking for a way out. Almost anything is better, even going begging to Mercedes for a supply and re-establishing themselves as competent because right now I am starting to fear for their survival if something does not change.
housen said:
you think the oil is leaking from the carbon fibre chassis ?
Thanks for that. No, I meant it may have been an installation issue i.e. an oil line came loose rather than the engine s
tting itself and subsequently dropping the oil.Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 12th May 11:44
budgie smuggler said:
Thanks for that. No, I meant it may have been an installation issue i.e. a pipe came loose rather than the engine stting itself and subsequently dropping the oil.
Think it may have been more than a pipe coming loose, whatever is was came with no warning and locked to wheels up, brundle suggested maybe a snapped crank or it's thrown a rod, sounds about right, either way probably meant the floor catching most of the oil till it found it's way out back when the car was tilted. tting itself and subsequently dropping the oil.You wouldn't mind so much if it was blisteringly fast but would grenade itself or off the pace but reliable but its neither, 3 years down the road and it still looks like it's their first ever foray into f1
Vocal Minority said:
London424 said:
It appears that the smart people at Merc have produced something pretty handy with this update.
It's looking very smart isn't it?
I'll see what they do in FP2, nobody has run the Soft tyre yet. Long runs are almost always a better indicator of pace. If the picture is murky this evening, tomorrow evening should be clearer.
Apparently, Pirelli have panic bumped up the rear tyre pressures by 2 PSI from the pre-season test, and 0.5 PSI higher on the fronts as the downforce increases from teams have been unexpectedly high...hence the cars sliding around. If they're happy with the loads from FP2 running, they'll reduce the min pressures tomorrow.
(Source: AMuS)
(Source: AMuS)
When you get small pieces of carbon fibre on track I always think why they haven't got some kind of high pressure air gun that a marshal could use to blow it off the track without getting on or close to the track themselves. One assigned to each marshals post that goes around to every race.
Might not work at Monaco or other street circuits though as it'll just blow it into the armco on the other side and shatter it even more.
Might not work at Monaco or other street circuits though as it'll just blow it into the armco on the other side and shatter it even more.
FourWheelDrift said:
Compressor behind the armco, energy store and a long hose. Not a constant blow but an full force empty the energy store in one go way.
The cars are passing it at 100+mph 6 feet away complete with massive wings, undertrays, diffusers, etc, all making huge amounts of shifted air, and they aren't moving it....but a little hose from 60ft with a marshal holding it will do it?I think all you'll do is put a marshall in A&E when he lands.
Edited by PhillipM on Friday 12th May 14:12
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