The Michael Schumacher Debate Thread
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Schumacher was incredible to watch. 96-98 were his best seasons with Hungary 98 the absolute highlight. You could see the commitment and talent on display. Part of the excitement was the strategy of the era but at race weekend he kept pulling rabbits out of hats in slower machinery. The domination years were a great payback for his efforts but nowhere near as exciting for the audience. Sure he bent the rules and broke them on occasion but for me that just added to the appeal in a sort of pantomime Villain kind of way. One of the best.
PPPMAT said:
Schumacher was incredible to watch. 96-98 were his best seasons with Hungary 98 the absolute highlight. You could see the commitment and talent on display. Part of the excitement was the strategy of the era but at race weekend he kept pulling rabbits out of hats in slower machinery. The domination years were a great payback for his efforts but nowhere near as exciting for the audience. Sure he bent the rules and broke them on occasion but for me that just added to the appeal in a sort of pantomime Villain kind of way. One of the best.
Button isn’t villified for his and the teams cheaplting with the larger fuel tank I wonder if he is outside of the U.K.?How about coulthard with the two brake pedals? Hero here but he and the team plus mikka cheated.
The beloved Senna was ruthless on the track and even said Pre races he run him off the track which he duely did.
Welshbeef said:
sandman77 said:
Welshbeef said:
How about coulthard with the two brake pedals? Hero here but he and the team plus mikka cheated.
How exactly was that cheating?HTP99 said:
Welshbeef said:
sandman77 said:
Welshbeef said:
How about coulthard with the two brake pedals? Hero here but he and the team plus mikka cheated.
How exactly was that cheating?RichB said:
HTP99 said:
Welshbeef said:
sandman77 said:
Welshbeef said:
How about coulthard with the two brake pedals? Hero here but he and the team plus mikka cheated.
How exactly was that cheating?Welshbeef said:
I guess a question is why did he come back - and then not be competitive generally.
If it was a case of he needed a sabbatical but it was years and the cars were so so different.
I think originally he was just bored. Even with all the money in the world and the ability to do anything you want you can't really replace the feeling of being in competition in something you worked your whole life up until that point for. Would you rather drive an F1 car for 19-20 races a year or sit on your arse watching daytime TV?If it was a case of he needed a sabbatical but it was years and the cars were so so different.
So many people struggle when they retire even at the ripe old age you're 'supposed to', imagine what it's like when your career is down to a decade or so and it's at the highest levels of adrenaline and competitiveness?
Then I just imagine he wanted to put the seeds in place with Brawn for what Mercedes became after he retired.
Plus he was Michael Schumacher so why the f
k not come back for a few years if the offer is there?It's ludicrous for anyone to question his talent who never saw him race in the flesh. I mentioned in another thread standing behind the chicane barrier in Monaco and how every single lap MS just shaved the barrier, causing a ripple you could feel whereas every other driver was giving several inches gap. It was magic.
I saw him race at a number of tracks and was lucky enough to have good access in those days as well as meet him a few times.
His talent was other-worldly and every single person in the paddock knew it but off track he was extremely humble, friendly and believe it or not, chatty and approachable.
The Ferrari guys adored him as he would be with them crunching data or testing on days off. He really made sure the entire effort of every person in the team was maximised on track and their success reflected a huge effort.
I saw him race at a number of tracks and was lucky enough to have good access in those days as well as meet him a few times.
His talent was other-worldly and every single person in the paddock knew it but off track he was extremely humble, friendly and believe it or not, chatty and approachable.
The Ferrari guys adored him as he would be with them crunching data or testing on days off. He really made sure the entire effort of every person in the team was maximised on track and their success reflected a huge effort.
Welshbeef said:
Um didn’t the FIA force them to remove the second brake pedal?
Maybe you should have a read of this. https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/inside-the-mtc/mc...
angrymoby said:
Well it's quite hard to compare him to any other decent team mate, because...
Brundle
Patrese
Verstappen
Lehto
Herbert
Irvine
Barrichello
Massa
At least Nico went on to be a WDC & earn his reputation of being more than a decent pedaller
Let's not forget that Massa was WDC.Brundle
Patrese
Verstappen
Lehto
Herbert
Irvine
Barrichello
Massa
At least Nico went on to be a WDC & earn his reputation of being more than a decent pedaller
Albeit for 20 seconds until Glock became helpful
sparta6 said:
Let's not forget that Massa was WDC.
Albeit for 20 seconds until Glock became helpful
Still the most insane finish to a season, imo. Hamilton lucked in big time on that final 1/3 of the lapAlbeit for 20 seconds until Glock became helpful
What would we be saying about Massa now if he won the 2008 WDC and Hamilton didn't?
RichB said:
sparta6 said:
...Let's not forget that Massa was WDC.
Albeit for 20 seconds until Glock became helpful
That's rather like saying Hamilton is now a 5 times World Champion, unless something happens in the remaining time the championship has left to run. Albeit for 20 seconds until Glock became helpful
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