The Official Brazilian GP Thread 2013***SPOILERS***

The Official Brazilian GP Thread 2013***SPOILERS***

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pozi

1,723 posts

189 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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tux said:
I dont think any engines were actually blown up as such, just got run at full throttle an awful lot. Its not a new thing in F1 it happened at the end of the v10 era as well its just now in this modern age of Twitter and Facebook we are hearing about it in real time.
Yep, pretty normal F1 fun and games for the last race of the season;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kApVM30AoUo

Probably a repost but it still makes me smile when Arrows tried to break their old Asiatech, I recall they managed to set the fire alarm off with this much to the annoyance of the Suzuka officials.

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

193 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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007 VXR said:
Get real, no one would give up that record.
Moss gave up a championship to Hawthorn when he could have just stayed quiet about a steward's decision.

JonRB

75,186 posts

274 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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SlipStream77 said:
Moss gave up a championship to Hawthorn when he could have just stayed quiet about a steward's decision.
That's different. That's sportsmanship not self-interest.

AWRacing

1,717 posts

227 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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http://wtf1.co.uk/dat-sound-v8s-fire-up-for-the-la...
Red Bulls attempt at killing the engines

zoom star

519 posts

153 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Is there any reason they are destroying the engines??
Is it not like killing off future motor sport history,in 20 years these cars will be at Goodwood Festival of Speed.
I would have thought with Mark retiring, and SB record collecting they would have brokered a deal to keep these cars as they were, for themselves.

hairyben

8,516 posts

185 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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zoom star said:
Is there any reason they are destroying the engines??
Is it not like killing off future motor sport history,in 20 years these cars will be at Goodwood Festival of Speed.
I would have thought with Mark retiring, and SB record collecting they would have brokered a deal to keep these cars as they were, for themselves.
The engines will be spent and good for scrap anyway.

They'll have spare engines, some of which probably in a less highly tuned state will be mated to the cars for future "classic" show off work which given the enormous complexity of running one of these cars (eg full support crew, fully warming the engine before starting, specialist oils etc) would be pretty limited I'd have thought.

mollytherocker

14,367 posts

211 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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zoom star said:
Is there any reason they are destroying the engines??
Is it not like killing off future motor sport history,in 20 years these cars will be at Goodwood Festival of Speed.
I would have thought with Mark retiring, and SB record collecting they would have brokered a deal to keep these cars as they were, for themselves.
They will probably keep 1 or 2 I guess?

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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zoom star said:
Is there any reason they are destroying the engines??
Is it not like killing off future motor sport history,in 20 years these cars will be at Goodwood Festival of Speed.
I would have thought with Mark retiring, and SB record collecting they would have brokered a deal to keep these cars as they were, for themselves.
These engines are scrap. They've done 1,000 miles or more which is very high mileage for an F1 engine; back in the turbo era it was normal to go through at least two engines a race - one was for qualifying which was specced to (hopefully) last just 12 laps!

Renault will have a bunch of engines left over, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're produced to a "demonstration spec" with lower compression to make them last longer.

I wonder how high those engines were revving with the limiters removed?

ooo000ooo

2,550 posts

196 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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davepoth said:
I wonder how high those engines were revving with the limiters removed?
They should let them remove all the restrictors, tune them to the max and send them out for a couple of laps to see what they could really do.

Vaud

50,984 posts

157 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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ooo000ooo said:
They should let them remove all the restrictors, tune them to the max and send them out for a couple of laps to see what they could really do.
Not much point as they will be tuned for the current restrictions, as is gearing.

Hub

6,459 posts

200 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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How many of their engine 'allowance' do they usually get through anyway? I noticed it goes down from 8 to 5(?) next season.

drophead

1,056 posts

159 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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ooo000ooo said:
davepoth said:
I wonder how high those engines were revving with the limiters removed?
They should let them remove all the restrictors, tune them to the max and send them out for a couple of laps to see what they could really do.
Video of Red Bull revving the crap out of their engine last night was apparently without limiters. Some say it would was revving out at 22k which is awesome.

FourWheelDrift

88,811 posts

286 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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MonkeyHanger said:
JonRB said:
PhillipM said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Yay Max. You are the most consistently slow driver over a season in F1 history.
hehe
Max, everyone else is faster than you. Please confirm you understand this message.
I was amazed to discover his full name isn't really Max Chilton-Last.
Hang on, hang on. We were too quick (unlike Max) with our congratulations. He hasn't crossed the line yet................wait ................. wait............................................ wait............................. and finished.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

189 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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drophead said:
Video of Red Bull revving the crap out of their engine last night was apparently without limiters. Some say it would was revving out at 22k which is awesome.
Link?

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

219 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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007 VXR said:
Link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUHbeIsOCI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcFUHbeIsOCI&app=desktop

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

219 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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davepoth said:
....back in the turbo era it was normal to go through at least two engines a race - one was for qualifying which was specced to (hopefully) last just 12 laps!....
Three laps - out lap, quick lap and in lap. Then it was scrap!

AWRacing

1,717 posts

227 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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007 VXR said:
Link?
Previous page...

007 VXR

64,187 posts

189 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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AWRacing said:
007 VXR said:
Link?
Previous page...
paperbag Ta

getmecoat

Vaud

50,984 posts

157 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Hub said:
How many of their engine 'allowance' do they usually get through anyway? I noticed it goes down from 8 to 5(?) next season.
Which does seem even crazier for unproven power plants. Keeping it at 8 and then phasing it after year 2 would seem more pragmatic.

Next years title to be decided on reliability, not on outright quail / race pace nor wins?

RDM

1,860 posts

209 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Did Bernd Maylander not have zero DNFs and he was faster than Max......