The Official 2016 Malaysian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[Flooble]

tommunster10 said:

Yes and they deserved the 1-2 despite only getting it due to God/Mercedes/Dick Dastardly borking Lewis's engine and Nico getting span out.........


Has anyone mentioned that had Lewis's engine not eaten itself Mercedes would of been WCC already (OK its not if its when), you honestly think any driver winning a WDC is more important to Mercedes than the WCC?

For your own future career if nothing else, could you please learn the difference between "of" and "have". They don't even sound the same.

Thank you.

[rsbmw]

TheInternet said:

deadslow said:

I thought the Red Bull drivers showed how its meant to be done when they went wheel to wheel. Very firm but very fair, with the proper amount of respect shown to their teammate and their team.

More easily done when there isn't a WDC up for grabs. It'll be interesting to see how things change should RB be in contention for the title in the coming years.

That was good clean racing. I expect DR will continue to do that, but Max may go a bit 'Rosberg'

[deadslow]

rsbmw said:

TheInternet said:

deadslow said:

I thought the Red Bull drivers showed how its meant to be done when they went wheel to wheel. Very firm but very fair, with the proper amount of respect shown to their teammate and their team.

More easily done when there isn't a WDC up for grabs. It'll be interesting to see how things change should RB be in contention for the title in the coming years.

That was good clean racing. I expect DR will continue to do that, but Max may go a bit 'Rosberg'

He's got too much skill to go a bit 'Rosberg', he'll definitely go a bit 'Hamilton', 'inexplicably right at that moment I had understeer'

[rsbmw]

I dunno, some of the moves he has pulled on Kimi have been of the Rosberg variety.

However, when he came up against Rosberg he got totally out-Rosberg'd.

[Derek Smith]

Flooble said:

For your own future career if nothing else, could you please learn the difference between "of" and "have". They don't even sound the same.

Thank you.

Sounds the same where I come from.

[RichB]

coppice said:

... in Jim Clark's day, They had "practice" instead. I highlighted "practise " as that is a common spelling error and - you guessed- pedantry is my middle name.

Did Derek misspell practice or am I confused too?

[Mr_Thyroid]

Derek Smith said:

Flooble said:

For your own future career if nothing else, could you please learn the difference between "of" and "have". They don't even sound the same.

Thank you.

Sounds the same where I come from.

I think he got out have the wrong side of bed.

[RichB]

Mr_Thyroid said:

Derek Smith said:

Flooble said:

For your own future career if nothing else, could you please learn the difference between "of" and "have". They don't even sound the same. Thank you.

Sounds the same where I come from.

I think he got out have the wrong side of bed.

He may of.

[Dusty964]

tommunster10 said:

What do people think of Nico coming from last to 3rd and with 10 sec penalty?

Fantastic drive from a deserving potential world champion would be my thoughts.
Unlike most I realised early on that sat on the sofa with a beer on a sunday meant I could enjoy it for what it is without the need for scorn and derision towards those who really wouldn't value my opinion.

[coppice]

RichB said:

coppice said:

... in Jim Clark's day, They had "practice" instead. I highlighted "practise " as that is a common spelling error and - you guessed- pedantry is my middle name.

Did Derek misspell practice or am I confused too?

No - as I was in rant mode I had a pop at other examples of bad usage I encounter . Such as 'should of '(see above), starting a post or conversation with the word 'so', 'challenge ' or 'issue ' instead of f***ing big problem and 'sat ' instead of 'sitting'.

[Gary C]

tommunster10 said:

I'm not a rabid fan of any driver, i just like to watch Motorsport, so i know andymadmak called me a Nico fanboy earlier in the thread but I really am not, i own not one baseball cap with a drivers name on it, nor would i pay to go to a race so I could boo from the stands at drivers like an utter scum bag would.

But from a netral enjoyment of the racing persons perspective i find it odd that when Lewis goes from last to 3rd at Spa it's the talk of the town, yet when Nico goes from last to 3rd after being span around all people talk about is Mercedes F1 destroying Lewis's engines in an act of sabotage.......funny that.
Is it because Nico coming from last to 3rd and with 10sec penalty shows how ridiculous the sheer dominance of the Merc F1 is? Or does mean we have to suggest Nico might actually be good at this game?

To add for me its a bit of both but mainly that the Merc F1 is stupidly in a class of its own.

What do people think of Nico coming from last to 3rd and with 10 sec penalty?

To be pedantic, if Hamiltons engine had not gone pop, Rosberg would have only have reached 4th

Anyway, I commented earlier that Rosberg for once battled back after a setback and despite the kimi overtake (which would have been differently if it had been Hamilton doing it) deserved his points.

Yes it shows the dominance, just like when vettle got spun to last in Brazil, but still fought back to win the WDC in that race.

It would be interesting to see if the red bull team continue to have such respect and close but totally fair racing if next years car is the class of the field and they are competing against each other for the WDC

[Gary C]

Derek Smith said:

Flooble said:

For your own future career if nothing else, could you please learn the difference between "of" and "have". They don't even sound the same.

Thank you.

Sounds the same where I come from.

Ah that's because people interpret the spoken contraction "would've" as "would of"

Phonetically would have sounds like "would ave" and would of sounds like "would ov" don't sound the same but the contraction would've when spoken often sounds like "would uv" which sounds like "would ov"

Edited by Gary C on Wednesday 5th October 08:21

[RichB]

coppice said:

RichB said:

coppice said:

... in Jim Clark's day, They had "practice" instead. I highlighted "practise " as that is a common spelling error and - you guessed- pedantry is my middle name.

Did Derek misspell practice or am I confused too?

No - as I was in rant mode I had a pop at other examples of bad usage I encounter . Such as 'should of '(see above), starting a post or conversation with the word 'so', 'challenge ' or 'issue ' instead of f***ing big problem and 'sat ' instead of 'sitting'.

[Dusty964]

Gary C said:

To be pedantic, if Hamiltons engine had not gone pop, Rosberg would have only have reached 4th

To be more pedantic, if Hamiltons engine had not gone pop how does anyone know that he wouldnt have gone wide somewhere, spun, outbraked himself- or any other mistake/incident? Redbulls catch him. Hit each other. Take each other off?
Too many variables to assume that the finishing order would have remained as is if his engine hadnt let go.

[Disastrous]

Gary C said:

Derek Smith said:

Flooble said:

For your own future career if nothing else, could you please learn the difference between "of" and "have". They don't even sound the same.

Thank you.

Sounds the same where I come from.

Ah that's because people interpret the spoken contraction "would've" as "would of"

Phonetically would have sounds like "would ave" and would of sounds like "would ov" don't sound the same but the contraction would've when spoken often sounds like "would uv" which sounds like "would ov"

Edited by Gary C on Wednesday 5th October 08:21

I wonder if the people who use 'of' like that would pick up on 'wouldov' or 'would ov' if someone else used it...

[andymadmak]

tommunster10 said:

But from a netral enjoyment of the racing persons perspective i find it odd that when Lewis goes from last to 3rd at Spa it's the talk of the town, yet when Nico goes from last to 3rd after being span around all people talk about is Mercedes F1 destroying Lewis's engines in an act of sabotage.......funny that.

Nico drove well. And it is a real shame that this fine drive is being over shadowed by the on-going troubles with LH engines. Had LH's engine not expired, then I think more people would be applauding Nicos drive back up the grid. As it is, many people are more focussed on the engine situation.

tommunster10 said:

Is it because Nico coming from last to 3rd and with 10sec penalty shows how ridiculous the sheer dominance of the Merc F1 is? Or does mean we have to suggest Nico might actually be good at this game?

Even a dominant F1 car has to be well driven to come through the field. There is no doubt that NR has talent.

tommunster10 said:

What do people think of Nico coming from last to 3rd and with 10 sec penalty?

As I said, a good drive. I also think the penalty was not deserved. He made an aggressive move, and it paid off. I don't know, but maybe his reputation for touching/hitting other cars is beginning to colour peoples views of him? In isolation the move on Raikonnen was absolutely fine in my opinion, but perhaps the stewards are thinking "why always Nico?" I do not hold that view myself, but I just wonder if that was part of the reason for the penalty?

[sandman77]

tommunster10 said:

you honestly think any driver winning a WDC is more important to Mercedes than the WCC?

Absolutely yes! Did you see the interview with Christian Horner on Ch4 after the Grand Prix on Sunday? He mentioned that when Red Bull had sewn up the constructors championship but it was looking like Vettel might not win the drivers championship (cant remember what year) that he and the team tried to convince themselves that the constructors was the most important thing anyway.

[RYH64E]

sandman77 said:

tommunster10 said:

you honestly think any driver winning a WDC is more important to Mercedes than the WCC?

Absolutely yes! Did you see the interview with Christian Horner on Ch4 after the Grand Prix on Sunday? He mentioned that when Red Bull had sewn up the constructors championship but it was looking like Vettel might not win the drivers championship (cant remember what year) that he and the team tried to convince themselves that the constructors was the most important thing anyway.

Is there any chance at all that a Mercedes car/driver combination won't win both the WCC and WDC this year? It's just a question of which one of their drivers wins the WDC, and I doubt they care much either way.

[tommunster10]

sandman77 said:

tommunster10 said:

you honestly think any driver winning a WDC is more important to Mercedes than the WCC?

Absolutely yes! Did you see the interview with Christian Horner on Ch4 after the Grand Prix on Sunday? He mentioned that when Red Bull had sewn up the constructors championship but it was looking like Vettel might not win the drivers championship (cant remember what year) that he and the team tried to convince themselves that the constructors was the most important thing anyway.

OK I should have pointed out that aside from the one just selling fizzy drinks, with Mercedes they are selling an actual brand which makes cars, like Ferrari, I mean Red Bull have a Renault engine but have Infinity and Aston Martin brands on the car?! It's a Fizzy drink team which sells the dream of a drink giving you wings and crazy dare devils so their drivers are more important in that respect granted.

But i take your point and it's my fault for not saying what I've just mentioned in my prior post.

[rsbmw]

tommunster10 said:

OK I should have pointed out that aside from the one just selling fizzy drinks, with Mercedes they are selling an actual brand which makes cars, like Ferrari, I mean Red Bull have a Renault engine but have Infinity and Aston Martin brands on the car?! It's a Fizzy drink team which sells the dream of a drink giving you wings and crazy dare devils so their drivers are more important in that respect granted.

But i take your point and it's my fault for not saying what I've just mentioned in my prior post.

No no no, Red Bull engine is made by a watchmaker.